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Nelson Mandela has died .....
Chaz
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The Buddha's 5 remembrances.
I am subject to aging, have not gone beyond aging.
I am subject to illness, have not gone beyond illness.
I am subject to death, have not gone beyond death.
I will grow different, separate from all that is dear and appealing to me.
I am the owner of my actions, heir to my actions, born of my actions, related through my actions, and have my actions as my arbitrator. Whatever I do, for good or for evil, to that will I fall heir.[2]
Truth be told, they had been keeping him alive for months. I suspect this was a blessing.
and @chaz: the 5 remembrances were one of the first things I found when i got into the suttas that connected with me, I try to remember these regularly -
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.057.than.html
AN 5.57
PTS: A iii 71
Upajjhatthana Sutta: Subjects for Contemplation
"There are these five facts that one should reflect on often, whether one is a woman or a man, lay or ordained. Which five?
"'I am subject to aging, have not gone beyond aging.' This is the first fact that one should reflect on often, whether one is a woman or a man, lay or ordained.
"'I am subject to illness, have not gone beyond illness.' ...
"'I am subject to death, have not gone beyond death.' ...
"'I will grow different, separate from all that is dear and appealing to me.' ...
"'I am the owner of my actions,[1] heir to my actions, born of my actions, related through my actions, and have my actions as my arbitrator. Whatever I do, for good or for evil, to that will I fall heir.' ...
"These are the five facts that one should reflect on often, whether one is a woman or a man, lay or ordained.
(To the tune of "Free Nelson Mandela") R-I-Pee-ee Nelson Mandela…. :rocker:
I'm sure his last five years were cheered by being removed from the US Terrorist Watch List.
Memory eternal!
When I think of Nelson Mandela, I think of the values that a leader must have: compassion, conviction, integrity, sincerity, generosity, loyalty, dignity and humility. Those are values that are earned from one’s actions and not just one’s words. Mandela held with remarkable consistency a very high ethical standard of behaving in line with these values......
Mandela, above all, will be remembered as the chief architect of the smooth transformation of South Africa from apartheid to democracy. The greatest tribute we fellow Africans can pay him, therefore, is to use him as an inspiration for the necessary transformation of our societies to enhance the dignity and prosperity of every individual African, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, age or class. If Mandela made the integration of a divided South Africa a reality, we can only pay tribute to him by making the unity of Africa a reality, also."
--- Nana Akufo-Addo
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=294386
It was touching....To see everyone dancing and
chanting together and really celebrating how one
man brought so many people together and sacrificed
alot ..... What? about 100 world leaders
there??....it was really nice to see
It was raining though.....
Dance on.
Nelson Mandala - F R E E :clap:
some to travel and kept more from attending the party
The 'uproar' is about the deaf interpreter that was there for
the state funeral....and as some of you may remember...I know
ASL....
I mentioned to hubby that night.......that I didn't understand
that guy. Not even.....the in between words...he just skipped
those...but none of the facial expressions...which is the
'accent' to sign language...hahaha...anyway...here is a story....
I hate this happened at the party....but I'm soooooo glad the
Deaf community made it known......I think Mandela would have
stood for it :rockon:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/11/21860157-fake-sign-language-interpreter-at-nelson-mandela-memorial-provokes-anger?lite
The guys who were paid a fortune are no longer to be found.
Mettha to him.
hahaha.
I did read about that today...but wasn't sure what version to
post.....there is probably about 16 sides to it, hahaha...
anyway...just major world events...make sure the person speaking
is speaking a language that someone understands. It's not
personal...I dont think it happened because of his mental health...
They are questioning why a schizophrenic had such access to international leaders.
I feel compassion for the poor guy, but I can't help but find it funny. I think most of us have moments in our lives where we simply have to bullshit our way through a situation we are completely unprepared for. Obviously, someone vetted for them man and there was apparently a company who hired him (which has since disappeared), so he shouldn't have even made it so far, but if he says he was having a schizophrenic episode, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
was the wave of the communication in the deaf community...so we just
found out part two today...it continues...
I'm sure he is going to go through alot after being in such
a public situation. MAy I feel more compassion for him.
May he be well. May his life be filled with happy moments and support
from those that love him.
The buck stops with the planners, IMO.
The coordinators.
I'm only saying at this point, I think he fooled a lot of people that he knew
sign, when he didn't. He got hired for the low-low price, and was a
'friend' of someone..that's just what I think of it. I won't paste a story...
I'm sure everyone has seen it.
For the record...I do want to say that I'm glad
this has brought awareness of how these details matter to people who
need them. Even within my own job place for a long time we hired deaf
employees, but the interpreters were crappy. Half ass to say the least.
I'm not certified...but would end up re-telling or getting recruited to
do some of the meetings.....Forward to now...lately...I'll say about the last
2 years, they are finally bringing in the certified people and paying them
the money. It has been nice to see them take it seriously....and the
employees get their rights recognized.
We have also had 2 lunch and learns that included work related signs
being taught to other employees who work in the area with the hearing
impaired.
He wasn't as constantly angelic as some make him out to be.
Mandela was jailed for terrorist offences. Non-Violence took a back seat.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/10/21846245-leader-savior-terrorist-how-white-south-africans-remember-nelson-mandela?lite
Sure, the eventual result was breathtaking, but it took a while, and I actually question whether Africa is indeed better off, with the likes of Mugabe exerting their despotic grip, and charitable funds donated by the well-meaning public, being invested in companies which produce weapons and arms for the 'trade' of war....
And if it's an emerald, we all know how they're mined.
Just like here in the US...the government problems in Africa
are social changes and standards that need to be addressed.
Whether it be corruption, sexism, racism, war.....all the things
that can either have a negative or positive effect on someone's life
span.
Don't get me started on gay rights! Africa is in last place on
that one! Socially speaking....and lawfully speaking, as well.
Sorry...off topic. Guilty.
he can certainly NOT come close to being on the same level as Ghandi and MLK, who both knew that non-violence is not a tactic, its a way of life, but at least he changed his tune later and also fostered an atmosphere of forgiveness.
Do I feel that any person deserves the deification he has received over the last 20 years? probably not.
any reason! That being said...this thread needs some laughs, hahaha.
Here in the US, we have a comedy show called SNL, and this was there
spoof on President Obama at the funeral and the interpreter. ...lolol
Disclaimer: I'm posting CNN's coverage of the spoof, bec that's
where I could find the clip without copy issues....They play it after
the chit chat...
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/offbeat/2013/12/15/newday-sot-snl-obama-mandela-fake-signer.cnn&hpt=hp_c3&from_homepage=yes&video_referrer=http://www.cnn.com/#/video/offbeat/2013/12/15/newday-sot-snl-obama-mandela-fake-signer.cnn
Ghandi did say stuff like if you cannot use non-violence, it's better to use violence then to pretend to be an advocate of non-violence but do otherwise. Ghandi knew that for non-violence to work the people had to embrace it as a way of life and stick by the ideals, even unto their deaths. I've been reading a bunch of books about Ghandi lately and it's been an amazing experience. He however NEVER advocated anything but non-violence in the endeavors in both South Africa and India, and even went on hunger strikes to near death if people broke the rules.
he believed that non-violence would always prevail in the end, even if used against someone like hitler, however he also admitted that it would take many more lives to work.