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Indescribable bliss
betaboy
Veteran
Just 30 minutes of meditation - bliss whenever thoughts were absent and an abundant space came into being. Whenever thoughts entered, the conflict was back, the mundane was back. No specific focus on an object (like breathing etc.), but a general awareness only. No intention other than the intention to NOT let "thought" catch you unawares.
When this was sustained, bliss was possible. Else, it was back to the mundane.
Happy New Year, everyone!
When this was sustained, bliss was possible. Else, it was back to the mundane.
Happy New Year, everyone!
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my meditation is a total chaos, so it is not even meditation in the proper sense, so i will be acting as a complete hypocrite by replying with below theoretical information, which i have understood from my theoretical readings and which seems ok to me - so sharing the below information with you.
Your the intention to NOT let "thought" catch you can give you bliss only, and that too not long enough and the sad part is no insight will arise from it - why - the reason is the intention to not let thought catch you - shows an aversion towards thought - so you are doing a not doing of letting thoughts come in - so what you are doing is also a form of doing and meditation is allowing everything to happen and let them cease on their own. meditation is done not to achieve anything, but to let go of everything, which we think we have. this is not to say to give attention to thoughts to give rise to new thoughts, rather this is to say that if thoughts come, acknowledge them and gently go back to the breath. don't try to avoid thoughts, if your objective is to gain insights.
see if the above information makes some sense to you.
metta to you and all sentient beings.
"glimpse after glimpse after glimpse after glimpse"
~ Sogyal Rinpoche
"In two words.... Be spacious. In two words... Be spacious"
~ Sogyal Rinpoche
Three lords of materialism (Trungpa). Materials. Beliefs. States. All three of these are materialism.
The physical experience is not important though it is pleausure. The importance is to recognize the significance of your experience to yourself. How does the experience fit into the awareness of your heart and wishes. The wishing place is reliable though those things (states etc) are not reliable. The path leads to the end of prapancha (google it).
One thing that occurred was that I realised how insignificant I am on the scale of the universe it made me feel a little humbled.
lately I havent been able to feel anything and it is because I thought that I knew how to feel these feelings. But my problem was that I was trying to force these feelings with methods. In reality all I ever have to do is let go.
BTW the quote I was responding to is a Theravada formulation, and Theravada does emphasise the precepts.
I have had four main teachers, three Vajrayana and one Dzogchen. Over a period of some decades I attended many retreats and numerous weekends, study days etc.
Total number of teachers mentioning the precepts or 6 perfections ?
Nil, on nil occasions..
I realise that the Theravada and some vajra groups do emphasise those upaya.
I glimpse a blissful emotion
about what,
I'm not sure,
but that it was about what wasn't
just a moment ago.
Ho-Hum.
Ho-Hum.
Now, where was I?