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Someone asked on another forum why sit through lots of pain - to meditate? I ask why 'sit' through pain when you can just turn mindfulness practice into meditation? I know it's from way back when, but does anybody in this modern day and age feel it's necessary to go through the intense, severe pain that's been known to happen (especially within certain groups) - I suspect that - and it's probably been discussed as a side note before - one would be told 'because that's the way it's always been done. ' It pains me to know that people deliberately set themselves up to suffer for some esoteric reason that is beyond my comprehension - iow has no really good reason for it. Thanks in advance.