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Bjack6Bjack6 Manchester New

Hi, I am new to the Buddhists Reggio and I have a question =) What meats can't Theravada eat?

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  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Somewhere in the UK, Central-Southern.... Moderator

    See here, under 'Alms for Food'.
    Remember this is mainly an instruction to MONKS.

    Bunks
  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Somewhere in the UK, Central-Southern.... Moderator

    Also:

    One should not consume elephant flesh... horse flesh... dog flesh... snake flesh... lion flesh... tiger flesh... leopard flesh... bear flesh... hyena flesh. Whoever should do so: an offense of wrong doing." — Mv.VI.23.10-15

    (Page 48.)

    Again, this is a MONASTIC code.

  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Somewhere in the UK, Central-Southern.... Moderator

    Welcome to the forum. I see you are a fellow Brit! Nice to meet you.

  • SpekterSpekter NY New
    edited August 2016

    Nice to meet you! @Bjack6 I can't speak specifically for Theravada Buddhism, but I can say that Buddhism for the layman is not as strict as one would expect. Being a Buddhist is more, if not all, about self-discovery and less about "rules." It's why there are no "sins" in Buddhism. Everything has and will have a logical cause and effect. However, many people do find that not consuming certain meats or whatnot is helpful in letting go of attachment and becoming closer to seeing one's true nature. If you wish to be a layman Buddhist, then I would recommend using your own judgement. Like @federica said above, if you wish to become a monk, then there are stricter codes.

    Sarwa Maitri,
    Spekter

    Bunksperson
  • @federica said:
    Also:

    One should not consume elephant flesh... horse flesh... dog flesh... snake flesh... lion flesh... tiger flesh... leopard flesh... bear flesh... hyena flesh. Whoever should do so: an offense of wrong doing." — Mv.VI.23.10-15

    Hello.
    Wow! They certainly had some interesting butchers in the Buddhas time. Try and keep off the unicorn and talking dragons too ... :glasses:

    Here to help o:)

  • newlotusnewlotus Australia Explorer

    @federica said:
    Also:

    One should not consume elephant flesh... horse flesh... dog flesh... snake flesh... lion flesh... tiger flesh... leopard flesh... bear flesh... hyena flesh. Whoever should do so: an offense of wrong doing." — Mv.VI.23.10-15

    huh i didnt know this......but sounds good to me!
    whats the general view on eating meat though? Because I really cant cut meat out of my diet. We have cut back on our meat. We have 3 days a week meat free. But I have food allergies which means that eating a huge amount of fruit and veg is not an option as I can get sick (yes its true i swear). Meat is the most stable food source for me so cutting that out would mk things tricky.
    Any thoughts?

  • dhammachickdhammachick crazy Aussie gal Sydney, Australia Veteran

    @newlotus said:

    @federica said:
    Also:

    One should not consume elephant flesh... horse flesh... dog flesh... snake flesh... lion flesh... tiger flesh... leopard flesh... bear flesh... hyena flesh. Whoever should do so: an offense of wrong doing." — Mv.VI.23.10-15

    huh i didnt know this......but sounds good to me!
    whats the general view on eating meat though? Because I really cant cut meat out of my diet. We have cut back on our meat. We have 3 days a week meat free. But I have food allergies which means that eating a huge amount of fruit and veg is not an option as I can get sick (yes its true i swear). Meat is the most stable food source for me so cutting that out would mk things tricky.
    Any thoughts?

    You don't HAVE to cut out meat. Some Buddhists are vegans, some vegetarian, some eat meat.

  • @newlotus said:

    @federica said:
    Also:

    One should not consume elephant flesh... horse flesh... dog flesh... snake flesh... lion flesh... tiger flesh... leopard flesh... bear flesh... hyena flesh. Whoever should do so: an offense of wrong doing." — Mv.VI.23.10-15

    huh i didnt know this......but sounds good to me!
    whats the general view on eating meat though? Because I really cant cut meat out of my diet. We have cut back on our meat. We have 3 days a week meat free. But I have food allergies which means that eating a huge amount of fruit and veg is not an option as I can get sick (yes its true i swear). Meat is the most stable food source for me so cutting that out would mk things tricky.
    Any thoughts?

    It's good to ask where the meat comes from, if the animal was treated as humanely as possible, etc. Here, most meat comes from factory farms where the animals are treated awfully.

    personlobster
  • SpinyNormanSpinyNorman It's still all old bollocks Veteran
    edited September 2016

    @Deformed said:

    @newlotus said:

    @federica said:
    Also:

    One should not consume elephant flesh... horse flesh... dog flesh... snake flesh... lion flesh... tiger flesh... leopard flesh... bear flesh... hyena flesh. Whoever should do so: an offense of wrong doing." — Mv.VI.23.10-15

    huh i didnt know this......but sounds good to me!
    whats the general view on eating meat though? Because I really cant cut meat out of my diet. We have cut back on our meat. We have 3 days a week meat free. But I have food allergies which means that eating a huge amount of fruit and veg is not an option as I can get sick (yes its true i swear). Meat is the most stable food source for me so cutting that out would mk things tricky.
    Any thoughts?

    It's good to ask where the meat comes from, if the animal was treated as humanely as possible, etc. Here, most meat comes from factory farms where the animals are treated awfully.

    Yes, eating mindfully does include an awareness of how the food ended up on our plate.

    Shoshin
  • Welcome

    lobster
  • @newlotus said:
    Any thoughts?

    I am trying to give them up ... :p Far too meaty.

    The Dalai Lama eats meat every other day. Being healthy according to our needs avoids dukkha. Moving towards a diet of moonbeams (for high Buddhist adepts) is way beyond my fish eating capacity.

    Here is something for the Tantric meat eating, tongue swallowers ...
    http://opcoa.st/PwpsW

  • SpinyNormanSpinyNorman It's still all old bollocks Veteran

    @lobster said> The Dalai Lama eats meat every other day.

    Who cares? He ain't the bleedin' pope. :p

    lobster
  • BunksBunks Australia Veteran

    HHDL's website states that he eats vegetarian at home in Dharamsala but not necessarily when he travels.

  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Veteran

    His autobiography says that he had to go back to meat eating after falling ill in trying to be a strict vegetarian. It just depends on what year you look at, lol. There are also interviews where he does say he eats meat every other day. Others yet say once a week. In any case, I don't think getting hung up on what anyone else eats is the way to figure out what each of us should eat. It's very individual and depends upon a lot of factors, including genetics.

    lobstersilver
  • Will_BakerWill_Baker Vermont Veteran

    @federica said:
    Also:

    One should not consume elephant flesh... horse flesh... dog flesh... snake flesh... lion flesh... tiger flesh... leopard flesh... bear flesh... hyena flesh. Whoever should do so: an offense of wrong doing." — Mv.VI.23.10-15

    (Page 48.)

    Again, this is a MONASTIC code.

    -So they could eat monkey flesh? "Sheer luxury"

  • SpinyNormanSpinyNorman It's still all old bollocks Veteran

    Will_BakerRichdawsondhammachickBexM
  • newlotusnewlotus Australia Explorer

    Ok great, thanks for clearing that up :) Yes we are trying our best to source ethical meats ect.

    lobster
  • SpinyNormanSpinyNorman It's still all old bollocks Veteran

    @newlotus said:
    Ok great, thanks for clearing that up :) Yes we are trying our best to source ethical meats ect.

  • newlotusnewlotus Australia Explorer

    aww poor kangaroos.....yeah dont eat kangaroo

  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Somewhere in the UK, Central-Southern.... Moderator

    Well then you might as well say, don't eat poor cows, lambs, pigs, chickens, ducks, salmon.....

    SpinyNormanpossibilities
  • SpinyNormanSpinyNorman It's still all old bollocks Veteran

    "Please don't eat me!"

    "Or me!"

    possibilities
  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Somewhere in the UK, Central-Southern.... Moderator

    "Or us!"

  • SpinyNormanSpinyNorman It's still all old bollocks Veteran
    edited September 2016

    Aw, they are so sweet! I want some! ( not to eat )

  • This thread is making me hungry

    lobsterSpinyNormandhammachick
  • dhammachickdhammachick crazy Aussie gal Sydney, Australia Veteran
    edited September 2016

    @newlotus said:
    aww poor kangaroos.....yeah dont eat kangaroo

    A friend of mine substituted kangaroo meat in a steak sandwich for me years ago without telling me. It made me quite ill. This was after I had stated quite emphatically that I wouldn't eat my coat of arms :-1:

    Poor Skippy
    https://youtu.be/_agtNKbgSfI

  • SpinyNormanSpinyNorman It's still all old bollocks Veteran

    dhammachicklobster
  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Somewhere in the UK, Central-Southern.... Moderator

    Awaiting OP's return.

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