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recognizing the perception

are there perceptions arise when one reads this post?

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  • KannonKannon Ach-To Veteran

    My mind immediately jumped to scrabble for answers after being faced with just this question. Perceptions? Sure I have all kinds. But is it the perceptions that matter or the act of perceiving itself? When I perceive things I am more liable to misconstrue and mis understand. I would say it's better to just observe, but neutrality should not equal passivity and personal inaction bothers me. I feel like watching without acting is ignoble.

    I think we have to perceive things but constantly challenge ourselves to look closer and find new lenses of understanding.

    I don't know if this was the point to your question. It's just how I perceived it, and then my thoughts on it

  • HozanHozan Veteran

    Cave

  • upekkaupekka Veteran

    thanks @eggsavior and @Hozan for your responses
    i will come to them again after i received some more responses
    thanks dhamma friends

  • KannonKannon Ach-To Veteran

    Just read your second post

    Fear

  • seeker242seeker242 Zen Florida, USA Veteran

    Yes, I perceive a question. =)

  • BunksBunks Australia Veteran

    Yes - English is your second language

    seeker242DhammaDragon
  • um.. frustration?

  • paulysopaulyso usa Explorer

    eye sense ,no feeling tone,no thinking,aware,percieve nothing ,at ease.this is somewhat my brain agregate process when you posed the question,upekka.

  • paulysopaulyso usa Explorer

    i just did it wrong.saw the instruction of the other post.you want words.

  • paulysopaulyso usa Explorer

    empty,neutral

  • BunksBunks Australia Veteran

    @Bunks said:
    Yes - English is your second language

    I wasn't joking - that was the first thing I perceived

  • KeromeKerome Did I fall in the forest? Europe Veteran

    Of course

    Anything you read will trigger a perception, I would think, although it can be trivial. You are perceiving something of the thought processes of another, there is some interpretation in that.

  • silversilver In the beginning there was nothing, and then it exploded. USA, Left coast. Veteran

    yeah - I don't get it.

  • FosdickFosdick in its eye are mirrored far off mountains Alaska, USA Veteran

    I perceive two questions - yours, and mine.

  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Moderator

    overthinking.

    DhammaDragonKannon
  • DhammaDragonDhammaDragon Carpe Diem switzerland Veteran

    Who perceives?

  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran

    @upekka said:
    are there perceptions arise when one reads this post?

    Yes...

  • upekkaupekka Veteran

    thanks for the help provided

  • DhammaDragonDhammaDragon Carpe Diem switzerland Veteran

    Who gets the jackpot? 🐉😙

    ShoshinHozan
  • upekkaupekka Veteran

    @DhammaDragon said:
    Who gets the jackpot? 🐉😙

    if one sees the perception as the perception and does not think the perception arisen within is the object one does not react to the object

    if one doesn't react to the perception one is 'here and now'
    that doesn't mean one is inactive but one can act wisely without greed, hate and delusion

    no need to agree or disagree to these writings but if one tries to see whether there is any truth in them would be fruitful

    thanks

  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran
    edited June 17

    ...But wait..."I" perceive more......

    recognizing (verb) the perception (noun)

    @upekka said:
    are there perceptions arise when one reads this post?

    It's interesting @upekka ...

    When discussing the five aggregates, some teachers refer to them as Form "Perception" Sensation, Mental formation, Consciousness and then there are others who might use "Recognition" in place of "Perception" ( I've also seen "Cognition" used) ....and in the thread's title you have used both words...(be it one being a verb and the other a noun)

    Recognising (verb) the perception (noun)

    When you could have also used....

    Perceiving (verb) the Recognition (noun)....
    Or...
    Recognising the recognition ....
    Or...
    Perceiving the perception ....
    Or...
    Re-cognising the cognition ....

    Damn perception, at times it can make a mountain out of a mole hill :winky:

  • upekkaupekka Veteran

    @Shoshin said:

    Damn perception, at times it can make a mountain out of a mole hill :

    always

    Shoshin
  • paulysopaulyso usa Explorer

    hmm...interesting , word text form,doesn't affect my emotiional and thinking perception of the object alot compared to living object in person.i try to vibe or feel the person.body language and facial expression plays a role.thanks upekka for this food of thought.

  • KannonKannon Ach-To Veteran

    @paulyso a good perspective, I think this is why I was unknowingly confused and started over thinking?

  • DhammaDragonDhammaDragon Carpe Diem switzerland Veteran
    edited June 18

    Well... I do have this strange way of being able to recognize a perception as such, hopefully not engage when it triggers negative feelings....
    But also have this all-encompassing view of not making a distinction between perception and perceiver.
    As if I am part of a whole.
    Otherwise, it feels like too much overthinking matters, when in fact I prefer to just feel, full stop.
    Connect emotionally, rather than splitting hairs with my logical mind🐉💖

    Kannon
  • upekkaupekka Veteran

    @DhammaDragon said:
    I prefer to just feel, full stop.

    Good point
    which feeling? bodily or mentally?

    can we chose bodily feeling? if we can't then what we should practice to do?

    can we chose mental feeling? if yes, what we should do?

  • namarupanamarupa Veteran
    edited June 19

    I remember a monk telling me that sañña/perception is also memory. So as it relates to your question, memory/perception/sañña does arise. I have to use it to understand what I am reading or looking at.

    DhammaDragonlobster
  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Moderator

    (We apparently don't store memories....)

  • DhammaDragonDhammaDragon Carpe Diem switzerland Veteran

    @namarupa said:
    I remember a monk telling me that sañña/perception is also memory. So as it relates to your question, memory/perception/sañña does arise. I have to use it to understand what I am reading or looking at.

    We seldom simply "perceive," in an objective way, unless through the practice of mindfulness we consciously train ourselves to hone our present-moment awareness.

    We usually see "concepts."
    We perceive reality through the filter of our subjecitivity: an object evokes memories, sometimes triggers feelings, comparison with similar objects from past experiences.

  • upekkaupekka Veteran

    @namarupa said:
    I have to use it to understand what I am reading or looking at.

    instead of 'I have to use it to understand', it (perception) is what 'i am' reading or looking at

    hope 'ditte ditta mattan' rings the bell

  • KannonKannon Ach-To Veteran
    edited June 19

    I don't remember who said it but I read on this forum that our perceptions are independent of actual reality, none of us will know it entirely until we totally transcend the limits of our consciousness and personhood. I believe the best we can do until that point is to nuetrally remain on the Middle Path.

    A mantra which has helped me with this:

    Accept everything,
    Release everything.... ad infinitum

    upekka
  • upekkaupekka Veteran

    @eggsavior said:

    A mantra which has helped me with this:

    Accept everything,
    Release everything.... ad infinitum

    hope you have been practising the above and by now you know 'dhamma' better than before

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