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Meditation and vibrational quality

KeromeKerome Love, love is mysteryThe Continent Veteran
edited January 11 in Meditation

I was wondering if any of the meditators amongst us have ever tried changing their vibrational quality? I’ve always tended towards relaxation in meditation, releasing whatever was wound up tight, but I’ve come across some things in my meditation that suggest I may not be going about it the right way.

To keep things short, ive encountered some energies of a different order, a more focussed and cleaner energy that was more dense than how I perceive my essence, which is totally transparent and colourless to me. It was quite beautiful and I ended up wondering if it was possible or desirable to shift my own pitch to match.

I know the Sona Sutta talks about

"In the same way, Sona, over-aroused persistence leads to restlessness, overly slack persistence leads to laziness. Thus you should determine the right pitch for your persistence, attune the pitch of the [five] faculties [to that], and there pick up your theme.”

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an06/an06.055.than.html

Does anyone have any experience “attuning the pitch of the five faculties”?

Comments

  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited January 12

    You should probably ask the person or people who gave or use the same meditation method you use. Is that possible?

    edit: and probably with time it will become clearer as your true nature is present. Aware and clear and energetic and so forth. It must be; right? Not realizing the true nature is the other side to the coin of clinging to phenomenon is what I am thinking.

  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 12

    Yes, do not attach attention to states. Experience, Observe, let go.

    Frankly, I have found that trying to achieve any form of observation of different phenomena, just halts me in my tracks, or diverts me from the exercise....

    Just allow things to unfold in their own way....

    karasti
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran

    @Jeffrey said:
    You should probably ask the person or people who gave or use the same meditation method you use. Is that possible?

    Not really. I use a basic “concentration on the abdominal breath” method from a book, sometimes varied with Thich Nhat Hanh’s Annapannasati practice.

  • SnakeskinSnakeskin Texas, USA Veteran
    edited January 12

    Everyone practicing Buddhist meditation should have some experience with that. :p

    One rendering of the five faculties is:

    Pitchfork: Mindfulness
    String: Conviction <--> Discernment
    String: Energy <--> Tranquility

    In the sutta you quoted the Buddha instructs Sona to tune persistence. Too much produces the hindrance of restlessness; too little, the hindrance of dullness. So, he should balance energy and tranquility. How? No explicit instructions are given, only that out of tune, unbalanced persistence produces one of those two hindrances and tuned, balanced persistence doesn’t.

    I’d suggest if shifting your "own pitch to match" balances the faculties, then do that.

    You may be interested in an essay by Thanissaro entitled De-perception. Not sure if it would empower or hinder you at the moment, but it seems relevant, once you swap out the word “breath”.

    person
  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    I read the linked essay. Talk about gilding the lily...! Far be it from me to level any kind of criticism at someone who in anyone's view must be an advanced, erudite and knowledgeable Master, but...

    To be completely honest with you, I watch the breath with absolutely no opinion or view of it, at all. Me? I'm just breathing in and out. I note its depth and rhythm, and note as it changes, without implementing any further volitional action, otherwise...
    K.I.S.S, in my opinion...

  • SnakeskinSnakeskin Texas, USA Veteran

    @federica, sounds harmonious.

    There are some days I can keep it simple. On those I may practice satipatthana, anapanasati or the commentarial method of counting, connecting, contacting and fixing. But on other days there's an avalanche that just crushes those. Still gonna sit, so might as well sort through the wreckage. For me any tools aiding with that are worth developing.

    p.s.
    gilding the lily ... I had to look that up. :lol: Sounds about right.

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