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I agree. :-) However, the situation with some people goes like this. When they find out that their actions are supporting the creation of suffering and killing, there is a natural tendency to not want to contribute to it, which arises from compassion of course. For example: I know that if I go to the local supermarket and buy *ANYTHING*, I know that suffering and killing had to take place in order for *WHATEVER-I-BOUGHT* to be in the supermarket to begin with, because no sentient being enjoys being killed. So the intentional act of purchasing *ANYTHING* becomes equivalent and synonymous to intentional support for the killing, which, because it is intentional support for killing, is a violation of the precept of no killing and creates karma. Also, for people who see it this way, the act of not changing their behavior becomes an intentional act because the natural compassionate response is to change it to alleviate suffering and when one does not change that behavior, that also becomes an intentional act, which violates the precepts and creates karma. Does any of that make sense? LOL :)
Valtiel;107728 said:And that's another view.
seeker242;107734 said:And there is a HUGE difference between the two because one is impractical and totally unreasonable while the other is not.
aMatt;107736 said::lol: This seems unbalanced.
Takeahnase;107746 said:When you buy vegetables knowing that many animals are killed in the cultivation and harvesting of those vegetables does this not make you culpable for those deaths? You are, afterall, supporting an industry which results in the deaths of millions by its methods.
I think it's obvious that harvesting meat causes more harm than harvesting vegetables.
seeker242;107773 said:Yes it is. A carrot does not scream when you cut it's head off.
Yes it is. A carrot does not scream when you cut it's head off.
I do not grow my own crops because that would be impractical and unreasonable because of where I live and also not consistent with the middle way...
Valtiel;107776 said:I dare say it would be better, would cause less suffering, to go hunting or fishing for yourself, or even buy some meat from your local butcher, than buying only vegetables that grew in crops showered in pesticides and had to be transported half way across the country to get to your plate... I dunno, I'm just doing what I think's best, too. :) Don't assume it's for lack of caring and compassion, though, or that your path is "more Buddhist" than everyone else's. :)
seeker242;107734 said:How so?
Indeed. At the moment I'm eating peanut butter toast, and I'm wondering how many beings suffered or died in order for me to enjoy this.
What about the thousands of bugs and little animals that get poisoned to keep them out of the crops, pulverized by machinery in harvesting, ran over and splattered on windshields in transportation...?
Takeahnase;107774 said:Does a rabbit scream when it gets caught up in a harvester combine?
Don't assume it's for lack of caring and compassion, though, or that your path is "more Buddhist" than everyone else's.:)