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Dhamma Dhatu;99254 said:A practising Buddhist does not take mind altering drugs in any shape or form. A practising Buddhist takes refuge in ordinary mind. :)
A practising Buddhist does not take mind altering drugs in any shape or form. A practising Buddhist takes refuge in ordinary mind.
Karma Dondrup Tashi;99319 said:It is possible that in a certain set and setting psychedelic entheogens would be beneficial. But in the vast majority of cases, it isn't, because they are treated as reasons to party rather than sacraments.
Dhammu Dhatu said:A practising Buddhist does not take mind altering drugs in any shape or form. A practising Buddhist takes refuge in ordinary mind.
“Under the influences of hallucinogens,” Dr. Grob writes, “individuals transcend their primary identification with their bodies and experience ego-free states before the time of their actual physical demise, and return with a new perspective and profound acceptance of the life constant: change.”
Jeffrey;99396 said:Depends on what you consider a buddhist. My lama has many students studying with her and we are not required to take a vow not to drink alcohol.
Jeffrey;99396 said:...you could damage my connection to the dharma.
Pietro Pumokin;99402 said:i consider myself a practicing buddhist and i take drugs on occasional occasion, and don't consider it a contradiction to my practice.
epicurio;99404 said:I view drug experiences in much the same way I view Jhana experiences. What is the difference whether the experience is induced from an external chemical, or an internal chemical?
Why does someone else feel the need to say who is and who isn't the buddhist? Its immature.
NamelessRiver;99435 said:It doesn't make sense to defend the effect that drugs have in "expanding the mind" (for whatever that means) in a forum of a religion who has been against intoxicants since the very beginning.
Jeffrey;99427 said:Why do you feel the need to snidely call me a lamist?
Jeffrey;99436 said:I don't need some to slap me with the 'not real buddhist' label.
Jeffrey;99447 said:Well I'm sorry DD but I took it as an insult.
Sikkha Sutta: He himself abstains from intoxicants that cause heedlessness
Dhamma Dhatu;99421 said:I agree. There is no contradiction. When you practise Buddhism, you practise Buddhism. When you take drugs, you cease to practise Buddhism. Your Buddhist practise is at times temporary. Only an arahant practises Buddhism 100% of the time. Thus your statement "i consider myself a practicing buddhist" is not completely accurate. :)
Dhamma Dhatu;99423 said:This is not actual jhana. It is a delusion many meditators have when the get over-excited via attachment. Real jhana is born of non-attachment. Jhana and drugs cannot be compared to eachother in any shape or form. :)