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Rampant Hypocracy in Christians
I have a question for those who consider themselves devout Christians who visit this board. I've seen and known many people who consider themselves 'strong Christians' or however they would put it, but, other than going to Church each week, they don't demonstrate any of the values that I would have thought a Christian would.
Examples include people I've known who were crazy party animals, always going to parties and getting totally drunk or high, usually underage. I thought breaking the law also went against Christian fundamentals? I worked with a girl who explicitlity TOLD ME I would go to hell because I didn't go to church every week, yet, every morning she'd come in with some story of having sex with some guy at some lake or about some party she went to and got totally trashed.
Now, I wouldn't ask this question other than the fact that I've seen it over and over again. There's far fewer "Christians" I've met that actually acted the way you would expect someone who boasted about strong moral values to act than the ones who say it and live their life completely differently.
My point is; I wish these people would stop the facade, don't go around saying what a good Christian you are then the next day talk about how many girls you've slept with. Why do you suppose this happens? Why do these people try to have this front, this image, that they obviously are not like at all??
Examples include people I've known who were crazy party animals, always going to parties and getting totally drunk or high, usually underage. I thought breaking the law also went against Christian fundamentals? I worked with a girl who explicitlity TOLD ME I would go to hell because I didn't go to church every week, yet, every morning she'd come in with some story of having sex with some guy at some lake or about some party she went to and got totally trashed.
Now, I wouldn't ask this question other than the fact that I've seen it over and over again. There's far fewer "Christians" I've met that actually acted the way you would expect someone who boasted about strong moral values to act than the ones who say it and live their life completely differently.
My point is; I wish these people would stop the facade, don't go around saying what a good Christian you are then the next day talk about how many girls you've slept with. Why do you suppose this happens? Why do these people try to have this front, this image, that they obviously are not like at all??
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In thailand and other parts of southeast asia, there are monks who gamble like crazy, smoke, drink, party, and generally don't exactly live a buddhist lifestyle. It is, unfortunately, more common than not.
In Israel, although I have no firsthand knowledge, I imagine it is safe to say you would find many jews who love their religion, but probably don't exactly live a religious lifestyle.
The problem is not with religion - it's with attachment. People realize that they are weak and make many mistakes. They foist their insecurities off by making you feel bad about your life. They are attached to some ideal that they believe is worth living for - and even though they can't or won't do it, they will try to make others do it in their stead.
It's just like a playground bully. They hate themselves, so they push other kids around.
That's a very good analogy Prime, and that's why it irritates me so much, to have someone tell me that I'll be damned to hell for not doing the right things and then have them turn around and tell me about all these thing they do that would be consider sins under their own religion.
I thought about what you have said here and I think that just proves the number one thing wrong with Christianity. It's so publicized that no one really has to try to understand the religion they are basing their entire lives on, it's basically force fed to them and they suck it all up. I have read the Bible two times, and there isn't one single sentence in the Bible that says you must go to church on the sabbath. You can download an ebook and use windows and type in a search for "bible, church, sabbath" whatever you want, and it won't show any relavent matches. This girl probably heard someone say who have to go to church, or their parents said it to them to scare them into cooperating with them to go to church, or something stupid.
Lets take the Passion of the Christ for instance. How many Christians saw that? What does the story tell? Now how many Christians have read the Bible? and what story does that tell? Exactly. You'll hear excuses like they don't understand it, or it doesn't make sense...well the problem sure as hell ain't the wording cause there are plenty of people who have read it, and understood it just fine. It comes from the fact that it talks about things that you would deem utterly impossible, but because the "Son of God" :bowdown: did it it must be true.
Sorry I kind of went off on a rant there, but you get the basic idea, I think
There are lots of hypocrits in this world I'm just tired of these types trying to call others out and make them feel bad about themselves through their religious belief system. I'm sure it would happen with any belief system, but as Prime mentioned, I am surrounded by predominantly Christian people and that's where my comments are coming from.
A brief look at the history of the 14 Dalai Lamas reveals the extent of corruption that existed, from time to time, at the courts of Regents and Dalai Lamas themselves. Of course, we Westerners are more au fait with the defects of popes, bishops and ministers: they are part and parcel of the background of our lives.
Many have argued that organisation is, in and of itself, corrupting; that it encourages ambition and greed. Contingent with such defilements, ignorance becomes a major conditioning element. We see this process in churches, the Umma and, dare I say it, the Sangha, and in all political parties.
When we confront the 'true believer' in their home context, any questioning that we bring to the homeostasis of their imagined stability of belief may be perceived as threatening.
Within my own experience, as a Christian pilgrim to Buddhist Dharamshala, I was shocked at how many of the Tibetans expressed surprise that I termed myself Christian because I "listened" rather than tried to teach! It told me much about how arrogant Christians are perceived to be. Mind you, because my own Christianity is so far from the dogmatic mainstream that I have been preached at by many of them.
Poor Brian is being invaded by a high English contingency!
It's either because of an inadequate number of Buddhist English forums - or we're trying to regain control of the colonies... peacefully, though!
Nice to have you on board!
It's gotten ridiculous - to the point where I am starting to be able to distinguish regional accents when I speak to various people in your country
Welcome to our site, Simon!
Congratulations on this site. It is beautifully restful on the eye.
I look forward to some interesting times here. Looking at profiles shows me that I have much to learn in this place.
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Anyway Buddhists are different... We are like no morals... Precepts can be broken at will if we fancy, just that you find yourself going nowhere, but not to Hell like most other religions claim. So if the monks decide that they are pissed of monastery life, we can't say "Go to hell" but we can only say "Go nowhere".
And I think Christians are most hypocritical of all. Good boy for Sunday, bad boy for six days. God spent entire six days building his stuff and you spend those time wrecking it. WELL DONE.
On Sunday God rests, so you decide that you want to clean up the mess? EVEN BETTER DONE. And you push the shit of the world to non-Christians? EVEN BEST.
Anyway I'd say that the Jews give the best prayers. I have seen many Jews pray until they cry, touched by God. They seem really glad that they were brought into the world. Still, it's best not to generalize.