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What does it mean to be a "secular religionist" to you?
@SpinyNorman said:
Or some religions have it more wrong than others.
Maybe "and".
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Toraldris -`-,-{@ Zen Nud... Buddhist @}-,-`- East Coast, USAVeteran
@SpinyNorman I disagree with a few things no matter which tradition, because they're unsubstantiated, but I'm going to sleep now and it doesn't matter. I'm going Zen so I can tell you later what exactly I accept, what I don't know about, and what I feel comfortable saying are unsubstantiated and unknowable claims... at another date! Good night.
@AldrisTorvalds said:
SpinyNorman I disagree with a few things no matter which tradition, because they're unsubstantiated, but I'm going to sleep now and it doesn't matter. I'm going Zen so I can tell you later what exactly I accept, what I don't know about, and what I feel comfortable saying are unsubstantiated and unknowable claims... at another date! Good night.
@AldrisTorvalds said:
SpinyNorman I disagree with a few things no matter which tradition, because they're unsubstantiated, but I'm going to sleep now and it doesn't matter. I'm going Zen so I can tell you later what exactly I accept, what I don't know about, and what I feel comfortable saying are unsubstantiated and unknowable claims... at another date! Good night.
I think Zen might suit you very well. There's something to suit every taste in Buddhism!
( ...as it 'appens, I could lay my hands on a nice Zen shikantaza practice if you're interested, a mate of mine got it for a Christmus present but 'asn't hardly used it, so it's good as new. Still got the guarantee wiv it an' everyfing... )
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Toraldris -`-,-{@ Zen Nud... Buddhist @}-,-`- East Coast, USAVeteran
edited September 2014
@SpinyNorman said:
( ...as it 'appens, I could lay my hands on a nice Zen shikantaza practice if you're interested, a mate of mine got it for a Christmus present but 'asn't hardly used it, so it's good as new. Still got the guarantee wiv it an' everyfing... )
I'm still reeling from the fact that I've been practicing Shikantaza for 10 years without knowing it. It'd be nice to have a zafu/zabuton set, but it's not a necessity. If Zazen is really the heart of Zen, the primary practice, then I guess I've been a Zen practitioner this whole time.
@AldrisTorvalds said:
I'm still reeling from the fact that I've been practicing Shikantaza for 10 years without knowing it. It'd be nice to have a zafu/zabuton set, but it's not a necessity. If Zazen is really the heart of Zen, the primary practice, then I guess I've been a Zen practitioner this whole time.
Yes, you're finally "coming out" as a Zen Buddhist! Hurrah!
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Toraldris -`-,-{@ Zen Nud... Buddhist @}-,-`- East Coast, USAVeteran
I may still be a Secular Zen Buddhist, but I don't suppose that's a big deal in Soto Zen.
@AldrisTorvalds said:
I may still be a Secular Zen Buddhist, but I don't suppose that's a big deal in Soto Zen.
No, I don't think they care. That's what I was trying to explain over at the secular Buddhist forum.
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DaftChrisSpiritually conflicted. Not of this world.Veteran
edited September 2014
To me, it simply means to adhere to (at least) the philosophy of a faith, maybe perform ritual if one is so inclined. All the while engaging in the secular world and believing that it & religion in general should not mix in any way shape or form.
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Maybe "and".
@SpinyNorman I disagree with a few things no matter which tradition, because they're unsubstantiated, but I'm going to sleep now and it doesn't matter. I'm going Zen so I can tell you later what exactly I accept, what I don't know about, and what I feel comfortable saying are unsubstantiated and unknowable claims... at another date! Good night.
I don't know about SN, but I look forward to it.
I think Zen might suit you very well. There's something to suit every taste in Buddhism!
( ...as it 'appens, I could lay my hands on a nice Zen shikantaza practice if you're interested, a mate of mine got it for a Christmus present but 'asn't hardly used it, so it's good as new. Still got the guarantee wiv it an' everyfing... )
I'm still reeling from the fact that I've been practicing Shikantaza for 10 years without knowing it.
It'd be nice to have a zafu/zabuton set, but it's not a necessity. If Zazen is really the heart of Zen, the primary practice, then I guess I've been a Zen practitioner this whole time.
Yes, you're finally "coming out" as a Zen Buddhist! Hurrah!
I may still be a Secular Zen Buddhist, but I don't suppose that's a big deal in Soto Zen.
No, I don't think they care. That's what I was trying to explain over at the secular Buddhist forum.
To me, it simply means to adhere to (at least) the philosophy of a faith, maybe perform ritual if one is so inclined. All the while engaging in the secular world and believing that it & religion in general should not mix in any way shape or form.
This pretty much sums up my understanding of secular Buddhism. But then again, I'm not a secular Buddhist so I could be way off target
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