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  • Re: Book of Eights: Chapter 3

    As one knows, so one speaks:
    How could one overcome one's views
    When led by desire, stuck in what's pleasing
    And making up ( ideas of ) what's correct?

    I think that pretty well sums up what I was saying as regards the role of emotion in shaping our views. Desire is an emotional force. What is pleasing is emotionally satisfying. To me, this verse suggests that emotion is apt to be the seed out of which our views arise.

    If one is not emotionally invested in a view or opinion, is it possible to actually dispute different views? Or do the views become more like possibilities that we can discuss in a detached way, to see where they might logically lead?

    personlobster
  • Re: Book of Eights: Chapter 3

    What does it mean to be attached to a view? It seems to me that attachment is very largely a matter of emotional investment in that view.

    Without emotion being involved, it is possible to favor one view over another without attachment, and to accept that the view you favor at the time may not be correct - most likely is not correct - but to decide to go with it anyway until something changes, or you learn something new that bears on it. Then the view can be altered to fit the new situation. No emotion, no problem.

    But emotion is sneaky, it easily arises without our being aware of it - one must always be mindful, always vigilant. Maybe when we are fully enlightened we can relax - but I wouldn't count on it.

    Shoshinpersonlobster
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  • Re: Are atheistic Buddhists immoral?

    I suppose by one way of looking at it god is an immoral idea because it posits that humans are immoral by their basic nature - this would seem to encourage immorality - since we're incapable of doing any better, why try?

    The closest I ever came to being murdered (not close at all, actually), the perp was -you guessed it - an atheist, and he did murder quite a number of other people. The publicity around this case undoubtedly did a lot to encourage the supposed connection. but I don't see it - it's too simplistic by far.

    lobster
  • Re: Don't Worry Be Happy

    @person said:
    What has worked best for me for both anger and worry is to become a problem solver when I go down those roads. Taking action, even internal actions to change perceptions or attitudes, redirects alot of that energy into something constructive.

    @Kerome said: Yes that's right, but sometimes you come across a place where you're blocked. ...

    For many problems, calm, detached analysis may be the best way to proceed. What is the apparent difficulty, what is the real difficulty, what are the possible options, how shall I proceed?

    But there are problems that really have no rational solution and no reasonable expectation that a favorable outcome is even possible. Anxiety becomes a powerful force that in-the-moment mindfulness cannot assuage.

    In my experience the use of a mantra can be very helpful in such a situation, and can block the insistent negative thoughts that are causing and strengthening the anxiety.
    I use a lot of different things for this, mantras based on one of the factors of enlightenment, any inner mental quality that is in opposition to anxiety, Namu Amida Butsu, whatever seems to work best to squeeze out the negative thinking.

    Shoshinlobsterkarastisilver