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  • Re: Help understanding Emptiness please!

    @federica said:
    @Humanb , I would explore the general reputation of kadampa Buddhism too, if I were you.

    You may find your concrete, resolute and single-minded focus then begins to ease up and even unravel a bit....
    Kadampa is not universally-popular, oh no, not by a long shot.... 'Controversial' doesn't cover it.....

    I am already aware of the controversy following the Kadampa tradition, the Dalai Lama and Shugden practitioners. Unfortunately, I see it as my karma to perceive such un-pure things happening and i put myself in a state of ignorance over it all. There isn't anything i can do to help the situation, i do not want to join in with it all anyway.

    Basically, i either attend a Kadampa Buddhist temple or i don't attend one at all because frankly, there are no other temples. And i find it very helpful at the temple. If anything pops up about the Dalai Lama i just ignore it, its none of my business if he is the real Dalai Lama or not. I don't worship him and i never will, not because i don't believe in him but because worshiping him would be treating a being differently from other beings.

    Anyway, the teachings on emptiness i have received thus far have been very meaningful and profound, i just haven't understood it fully. Probably because i'm extremely cynical.

    lobster
  • Re: Help understanding Emptiness please!

    @federica said:
    Focusing on this, for a moment:

    @Humanb said: And it is fine if you believe things that i do not, Karma for me is obviously different to what you believe Karma is. It's not the end of the world, you don't have to get defensive over your beliefs, After all.. our perceptions are so vastly different that its inevitable that conflict of belief will happen between people.

    It's not a question of 'believing' what Kamma is.
    It's what the Buddha instructed. It's what he explained and clarified. So 'belief' has nothing to do with verifiable instruction.
    If you want to continue 'believing' kamma is what you believe it to be, be my guest. But you are incorrect, and if you wish to study Buddhism and adopt any of its directions as your calling, you may find it more useful to return to the nitty-gritty grass-roots of the matter, and study the 4 Noble Truths and The Eightfold Path.

    A good place to start, would be here, and here.
    The two sites are extensive and detailed and an absolutely priceless font of information....

    I hope any negative feelings towards me don't continue, i would hate to evoke such horrible feelings in anybody.

    You misinterpret negative feelings.
    We're trying to help.
    I Am trying to help.
    But in order to accept new ways of seeing things, some of your old ways will have to be left by the wayside. They just don't fit.... and hopefully, as you'll learn, you will see the why of it....

    You do not know what the Buddha taught about Karma unless you were physically there, all you can do is assume that what you are being taught is the Karma. Things change, Buddha taught this, or at least i assume he taught this. You know the game of Chinese whispers, the more people it is passed through, the more risk of it being changed.

    The problem here is, my understanding of karma comes from monks and i actually asked why i experience unpure things in the world and he said it is because of our Karma, now if you want to argue about this, i suggest you take it up with the Monk haha, hes a really nice chap and i have confidence in the things he tells me.

    In a nutshell, karma is cause and effect. its like the justice system of the universe.

    I feel like we aren't talking about the same religion here... What sector of Buddhism do you study?

    Shoshin
  • Re: Help understanding Emptiness please!

    @federica said:

    @Humanb said: I am already aware of the controversy following the Kadampa tradition, the Dalai Lama and Shugden practitioners. Unfortunately, I see it as my karma to perceive such un-pure things happening and i put myself in a state of ignorance over it all.

    I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.
    Karma means 'Action'. It isn't fatalistic, and is under your control. It's not a judgement, result or retribution. It merely means 'Action and encapsulates mental, verbal and physical actions.

    There isn't anything i can do to help the situation,

    Of course there is. Kamma is yours to fabricate and control. It's all down to you.....

    Basically, i either attend a Kadampa Buddhist temple or i don't attend one at all because frankly, there are no other temples.

    I haven't attended a temple for nearly 7 years. What's your point? It's not obligatory. This here's my temple and Sangha. I'd much rather not attend a termple at all, if that was the only choice open to me....

    And i find it very helpful at the temple. If anything pops up about the Dalai Lama i just ignore it, its none of my business if he is the real Dalai Lama or not. I don't worship him and i never will, not because i don't believe in him but because worshiping him would be treating a being differently from other beings.

    The Dalai Lama would be the very first person to tell you the same thing. He would assure you he is a simple Monk, and has no interest in being treated in any other way.
    Is this what they have told you there? Good grief...!

    Anyway, the teachings on emptiness i have received thus far have been very meaningful and profound, i just haven't understood it fully. Probably because i'm extremely cynical.

    No.
    It's because they're wrong, misguided and based on a person's interpretation, without reference to authentic Buddhist texts or suttas.

    Please try to listen, instead of constantly protesting how and why you believe yourself to be on the right track.

    You're not.

    Your assuming i am not on the right track, yet Buddha himself said to "Find your own light." Doesn't that suggest there is no right track, but a goal to which the path itself is paved to by the walker?

    I haven't taken offence, as i understand how easy it is to get annoyed with mere text, just relax, i am not very good at typing in a compassionate way, i come across passive aggressive but i'm nothing like this in person.

    And it is fine if you believe things that i do not, Karma for me is obviously different to what you believe Karma is. It's not the end of the world, you don't have to get defensive over your beliefs, After all.. our perceptions are so vastly different that its inevitable that conflict of belief will happen between people.

    I hope any negative feelings towards me don't continue, i would hate to evoke such horrible feelings in anybody.

    ShoshinEarthninja
  • Re: A small portion of my philosophy.

    @SpinyNorman said:
    Reifying consciousness might be an appealing idea, but I think it's one that should be approached with caution. Is there support in Buddhism for this approach?

    Consciousness = mind
    I just prefer to use the word consciousness because its not confusing. Especially considering people confuse the word mind for brain.

    @0student0 said:
    Also, think of this: if your actions are a result of your previous experience, then you're always innocent. But at the same time, it is important to take responsibility.

    Exactly... We are our experiences!!
    If you were born into my body, lived my life exactly, right up until this point. You would be writing this sentence right now because you would be me.

    And if who you are is dictated by what you have experienced then there is no good or evil person. All there is, is a person whom through their unique experience has developed a certain self image to which reacts to situations according to what they have already experienced.

    So, if all we are is what we have experienced.
    Then there is no self, because the self would just be a collection of experiences that can't be identified as the self. Just like the body is a collection of parts that can't be identified as the self.

    0student0lobster
  • A small portion of my philosophy.

    I have always thought that if this place is real then why do I have to posess a brain to tell me what I am experiencing? Why do I have nerve endings that communicate to the brain in order to tell me what I am feeling?

    If this place existed then wouldn't I feel and sense the world without the need to process it?

    It seems to me that the brain is a creation of consciousness, along with all other phenomenon to make experiencing itself possible. Thus it seems that the brain has been created.

    In fact, it appears that the whole universe exists as it does to be experienced and we by experiencing it bring it into existence. Like a hand in hand process between the one being that is both creator and experiencer.

    I have come up with a quote that highly supports Buddha's teachings on treating others more important than the self. " Everything exists for the benefit of anything but itself."

    Naturally our egos destroy this universal rule because it makes us act as the most important thing in our experience, but really we are here for everything else.

    A tree doesn't exist for its own benefit because it physically can't benefit it's own existence, it can only be a tree. A tree benefits all life because it gives out oxygen in replacement of carbon dioxide, which magically just so happens to be the by product of inhaled oxygen.

    I think there are countless examples of this selfless existence. Which points to emptiness and the lack of self. If nature is acting in such a way, then why are we doing the opposite?

    Much love,

    Humanb

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