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SpinyNorman · It's still all old bollocks · Veteran

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  • Re: London Bridge Incident ..Stay Safe Londoners...

    @federica said:>...they're no more Muslim than you or I are.

    I don't think it's as simple as that, and the jihadists clearly see themselves as Muslims. It seems they are inspired by the Wahhabi sect in Saudi Arabia.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/what-is-wahhabism-the-reactionary-branch-of-islam-said-to-be-the/
    A related problem seems to be the inteminable conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims.

    I think Islam is in urgent need of modernisation, it reminds me of Christianity in the medieval period. For example attitudes toward women and gays are atrocious in some Muslim countries.

    lobsterdhammachick
  • Re: if everything were perfect...

    @DhammaDragon said: Dukkha will never cease.
    The N8P aims to help us develop the insight and wisdom to cope with dukkha.

    I don't know where you are getting this from, but it directly contradicts what the Noble Truths say.

    The 3rd and 4th Noble Truths are about cessation of dukkha, not about coping with it.

    "'Cessation of suffering, as a noble truth, is this.' Such was the vision... 'This cessation of suffering, as a noble truth, can be verified.' Such was the vision... 'This cessation of suffering, as a noble truth, has been verified.' Such was the vision... in regard to ideas not heard by me before."
    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn56/sn56.011.nymo.html

    lobsterseeker242Traveller
  • Re: Zen Buddhism and Rebirth?

    A glimpse down the rabbit hole:

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quantum_consciousness

    lobster
  • Re: Our original nature - Buddha or Mara?

    @techie said:

    @SpinyNorman said:

    @seeker242 said:

    @Dakini said:

    @SpinyNorman said:

    That sounds rather like Atman, true self, something "beneath" the aggregates.

    The "True Self" or Buddhanature doctrine, as we're told the Buddha articulated it on his deathbed, does sound a bit like Atman.

    It's sounds like it, but it can't be! Because if it was, it could not rightly be called Buddha nature to begin with!

    So what exactly is Buddha nature in your view? Is it something inherent which comes to the fore when the craving and aversion subside, and we see more clearly? Is it something distinct from the aggregates?

    Would you talk about Buddha nature as "true self"? And, if so, how would you distinguish this experientially from Atman/Brahman?

    If we want Buddha nature to mean 'something pure, blissful', then everything else must be brushed aside as part of a dualistic world. This would make nondualism the common ground between Buddhism and Hinduism.

    Yes, I think non-dualism is a common theme in the Dharmic traditions.

    lobster
  • Re: Zen Buddhism and Rebirth?

    @Kerome said:

    @SpinyNorman said:

    @Kerome said:> I believe that there is an afterlife, and that there is a kind of recycling of the mind and self.

    It's interesting to ponder whether consciousness is in some sense recycled, or in some sense integral to the universe.

    ( gawd, I'm sounding like Chopra now! )

    Well scientists have determined that there are something like 11 dimensions to existence. We can only see a few of these, it would not surprise me if consciousness was in there on a separate dimensional axis.

    I don't know of any science pointing to consciousness as a dimension ( though there is quite a lot of pseudoscience in this area! ). I think science generally regards consciousness as an emergent property of biological organisms.

    lobster