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SpinyNorman · It's still all old bollocks · Veteran

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  • Re: The Seven Factors of Enlightenment - End Game.

    @Kerome said:

    @SpinyNorman said:

    @lobster said:> Without application are we just playing?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Factors_of_Enlightenment

    I prefer this formulation to the 8-fold path, I think it gives a clearer idea of the practices and qualities involved. In the suttas the seven factors progressively displace the five hindrances.
    I seem to have got stuck on the second factor, investigation. :p

    Perhaps you might try developing relaxation, concentration and equanimity? They are the other side of the seven factors after all, you might be able to bring balance to your approach.

    Sure, balance is important. In crude terms I think you can look at it as a balance between developing the qualities of samatha and vipassana, both on and off the cushion.

    Snakeskin
  • Re: Lost and reaching out

    @Bunks said:> Please don't throw the baby out with the bath water though. There are heaps of online groups you can join if you think the NKT isn't for you. Hang in there and keep your eyes open.

    Good advice. I was involved in NKT myself a long time ago. I was aware of the controversy ( some ugly Tibetan religious politics, IMO ), but didn't have major concerns based on the people I actually met. One solution is to remain on friendly terms with the current group, while exploring other options.

    The Buddhanet directory is always worth checking, not all local groups are listed but the ones who are should know what else is going on.
    http://www.buddhanet.info/wbd/

    BunksWisop
  • Re: The Seven Factors of Enlightenment - End Game.

    @lobster said:> Without application are we just playing?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Factors_of_Enlightenment

    I prefer this formulation to the 8-fold path, I think it gives a clearer idea of the practices and qualities involved. In the suttas the seven factors progressively displace the five hindrances.
    I seem to have got stuck on the second factor, investigation. :p

    Snakeskin
  • Re: Buddhism, making judgments and not judging

    @Kerome said:> It seems to indicate that a great deal of peace of mind, and perhaps a large part of the cessation of suffering, is to be found in non judgment - not attaching to love or hate. Intuitively I feel this must be true, that a lot of the trouble is in the mind's attempts to categorise things as good-bad, loved-hated.

    I reckon that equanimity is a result of insight, not something you can decide to do. But insight seems to involve a high degree of discernment, initially the ability to recognise the reactions of craving and aversion as they arise.

    lobstersilver
  • Re: Claiming enlightenment

    I think a constructive response in such situations is to ask the person what enlightenment actually means to them, not assuming that they mean the same thing that you do.

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