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dhammachick · crazy Aussie BUJU · Veteran

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  • Re: Adam and Eve

    @Mingle said:
    No sense at all in the story of Adam and Eve. Perhaps a talking snake and a woman made from a man's rib would make for good bedtime literature though.

    Which is exactly what non Buddhists may say about the Dharma teachings........

    vinlyn
  • Re: Adam and Eve

    @karasti said:
    As an adult, I can read between the lines and pull nuggets of wisdom out of stories. But when the stories are put forth as literal truth and the symbolism isn't pulled out and explained, it does no good. I quite enjoy many Christian stories now, just like I enjoy the Jataka tales. But my impression was that my church did not have a positive image of women. Nothing about accountability for the choice was ever brought up. Not once.

    Which is the huge difference between Judaism and Christianity.

    I enjoy stories. I think they can be a good way to teach a lot of things. Stories stick with us. But when people who teach others take them as literal truths, no good.

    Jews do not take the Torah literally at all costs. We are encouraged to ask questions, debate, even argue to come to an understanding of what's being taught. I too was raised Catholic as a child and only embraced my Jewishness as an adult. So I understand your distaste for literalism in teaching children.

    karastiHozanJeffreyDhammaDragon
  • Re: Adam and Eve

    The whole moral of Eve being produced from the rib of Adam is to show that G-d created man and woman equally. Eve was created to be not only a companion for Adam, but to also hold him accountable for his actions along with making decisions with him (eg naming all the animals).

    As for the serpent scenario, if Adam and Eve had just fessed up to eating the apple of their own free will instead of passing the buck, they'd never had been kicked out. Again, it's about accountability and responsibility.

    Important note for all of you - you're forgetting the Torah was translated and changed in some parts when it became part of the Christian Bible.

    But judging by some comments here I'm just one of those sad and illogical people who attended Torah classes shrugs So I've probably wasted this post.

    silver
  • Re: OMG !...(Or Should That Be "Oh My Buddha Nature" ) ?

    @karasti said:
    @Lionduck I suppose it depends on how you determine something matters. In the Grand Scheme, of course not. But in our daily lives here, I think it does. Being respectful and attempting to not offend people (when you know it's reasonable that they might be offended) is important, I think. And part of Right Speech. I said the same thing after the shootings at the news office over the Mohammed drawings. Of course nothing justifies the killing of people. But, to purposely inflame people isn't skillful, either. To claim "fun" while using knowingly offensive images and words isn't skillful. It might fly under Free Speech. But Right Speech has higher ideals, I think. Finding the line might not always be easy. It's easy to say "Well, they shouldn't be so attached to things like images of Mohammed" but that is putting our religion on them the same way we don't like when others do to us. We don't get to determine what people should or shouldn't do.

    Disclaimer: I am not talking about going overboard with safe spaces and so on. I'm talking about being reasonable and making an effort to be aware of the people you share the world with and being kind to them with your words. Rather than making fun of something they hold dear.

    I hope people read this and remember it when posting here. It would be a great reminder of Right Speech for all of us.

    karasti
  • Re: Buddhism and Tattoos

    Tattoos go against lots of paths' teachings and people still get them. I think there are more important things to worry about in Buddhism.

    lobstersilverDhammaDragon