Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Examples: Monday, today, last week, Mar 26, 3/26/04
Welcome home! Please contact if you have any difficulty logging in or using the site. New registrations must be manually approved which may take up to 48 hours. Can't log in? Try clearing your browser's cookies.

Would you mind sharing some quotes from Buddha?



  • Heedfulness is the path to the Deathless. Heedlessness is the path to death. The heedful die not. The heedless are as if dead already.

    Dh 21
  • BlondelBlondel Veteran
    He rejoices here, he rejoices after death, in both states does the well-doer rejoice. He rejoices and greatly rejoices having seen the karmic purity of self. — Dhammapada 16
  • CittaCitta Veteran
    It is always worth reminding ourselves that the context of the Buddhas reported remarks to the Kalamas was that they were NOT his followers. They were followers of another teacher.
    And to those who wonder if that matters I suggest that another read through in the light of the fact sheds a different light on it.
    That and the fact that after the discourse many then did become his followers....
  • Florian said:

    I know what you mean @riverflow, but I would violently, er, sorry, I mean politely disagree with you about fundamentalist idealogues who stick to syllogistic thinking. This is usually exactly what they refuse to do. It is by refusing to think logically that they protect their ideologies. It's a rampant practice in science and philosophy, never mind down the pub.

    [derail -- sorry!]

    @Florian , I can only speak from my own experience about fundamentalism--as someone who has lived (and still lives) in the southern US, where fundamentalism runs rampant-- and as someone who once bought into Christian fundamentalism so rigid that me and my friends ended up getting kicked out of the already very fundamentalist Church of Christ. As long as you keep your ideology protected from inductive logic and use (or claim to use) deductive logic only, you can construct a consistent and logical system. Everything gets filtered and interpreted through that logic. It can provide a weird kind of comfortable certainty that fundamentalists mistakenly call "faith."

    Imagine a computer fed with only certain amounts of data, and then remove all the input devices. The computer can still process the information it possesses, but it can't have any new data added to it to work with and develop. But the logical "infrastructure" remains in place.

    This hermetically sealed world only falls apart once you admit in any inductive reasoning (and the less absolute conclusions it can provide). And so you just shut it out inductive reasoning. Only syllogisms remain, and then everything makes perfectly good sense. The logic is bizarre only to those without this "faith." Certainly in the Church of Christ circles, they love syllogisms, as if you need no other proof for your ideology. The same logic drives abortion clinic bombers to do what they do.

    I think of it as a kind of "logic sickness"--you cannot reason with such people because the narrow logic they possess won't allow them to process anything any other way. The problem with fundamentalism lies not in the content of their beliefs but the form in which it takes. This doesn't make fundamentalists hopeless cases--but it will take something outside the sphere of intellectual debate to shake them out of it the "logic sickness" they have. Debating with fundamentalists serves very little purpose because this deals with information content--I find this approach too simplistic. Many atheist writers I find disappointing in that regard (though I too do not believe, but for my own peculiar anti-metaphysical reasons). They think of the matter to simplistically.

    The problematic roots of fundamentalism lie far deeper than that, in this syllogistic certainty, the "faith" of fundamentalists. All the empirical evidence in the world means nothing to them--the problem has to be addressed epistemologically--something people that Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris et al apparently don't recognize. It preoccupied Dostoevsky's mind quite a lot, though in a different, political context.

    At any rate, it seems that way to me and my own experience-- as a fundamentalist, and also as one who, as an atheist, has gone round and round in circles with fundamentalists. It will take something much more than reason to shake their "faith."

    [/derail -- sorry!]
  • TO ADD: The difference between everyday sloppy thinking and fundamentalists lies in quality, not merely quantity.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Have we finished derailing yet?
    Or is there more to add?

  • FlorianFlorian Veteran
    Point taken. It's an interesting topic, but for another thread.

  • pegembarapegembara Veteran
    edited July 2013
    He who is friendly amidst the hostile, peaceful amidst the violent, and unattached amidst the attached — him do I call a holy man.
    Dh 406
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    Upon transcending the true nature of reality, is it reported that Buddha said:

    "WTF? OMG! LOL. Whatevs."

  • It is harder to conquer your own mind
    than to conquer a thousand armies.

  • the world is like a mirror, see?
    And the world smiles back.
  • lobsterlobster Veteran
    Dre Parker: I thought you were just a maintenance man.
    Mr. Han: You think only with your eyes, so you are easy to fool.
    The Karate Kid (2010)
  • The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, nor to worry about the future, but to live the present moment wisely and earnestly.
  • misterCopemisterCope PA, USA Veteran
    "I didn't say that, but I'm sure people will say that I said that." -The Buddha

    "Same here." -Albert Einstein
  • Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared
  • bookwormbookworm U.S.A. Veteran
    There is no one true path to enlightenment, find your own path
  • It is a man’s own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways - See more at:
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
  • ArthurbodhiArthurbodhi Veteran
    edited November 2013
    "Haters gonna hate" - The Buddha

    OK, :) that is not from the Buddha, but is similar to:

    "We the unhating live
    happily midst the haters,
    among the hating humans
    from hatred dwell we free."

    Dhammapada Verse 197
  • “Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without.
Sign In or Register to comment.