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Dharma Talks

ShoshinShoshin No one in particularNowhere Special Veteran

There's nothing like the real deal, sitting in the presence of a renowned teacher and many of us have had the good fortune to do just that..

However nowadays with modern technology nobody is missing out on Dharma talks by renowned teachers who are just a click away....

From what I gather, Dharma talks are designed to give people what they need and not necessarily what they want..

What's your take on Dharma Talks ?...( not necessarily just talks given by your own teacher if you have one...)

How helpful are they/have they been to your practice ?

Or are Dharma books more your thing ?

Or perhaps both ?

We have to get access to the teaching somehow... :)

Comments

  • KundoKundo Sydney, Australia Veteran

    I'm actually not a prolific listener to Dharma talks. I find more "Aha" moments in reading. I have listened to podcasts in the past and found some to be "meh" and some to be quite good. I am going to start with Dharma talks though because my commute to and from work is 50 mins each way so I have quality time to myself from now on.

    _ /\ _

    Shoshinlobster
  • lobsterlobster Veteran

    From what I gather, Dharma talks are designed to give people what they need and not necessarily what they want..

    That is the ideal, coming from able, enlightened teachers. Otherwise we are just in the presence of 'thus did I read', hear about or believe is the right propaganda. Sadly that is the norm. It is why people travel or go on retreat or find useful insight.
    If 'aha moments' come from reading, then that is worth our time and investment.

    In time we may find others who can provide insight, guidance, environment, example, shared experience that enables our progress. That can be from podcasts, youtube or being attentive to our daily life.

    Jayasara (our former Newbuddhist example monk) is now a teacher here:
    https://buddhistinsights.com/

    What an inspiration ...
    http://newbuddhist.com/discussion/21837/student-of-the-path/p1

    Shoshin
  • pegembarapegembara Veteran

    Just listened to this talk. So direct and to the point.

    Shoshin
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran

    I go through phases when I listen to dharma talks like once a day. It has to be someone with a decent speaking voice though, and a fair command of English.

    But I also learn the dharma from books that I sometimes share with my father, from courses or directly from Access to Insight, where I may pick a keyword, do a search and then choose a Sūtra to read.

    I think the internet makes it easy to pick and choose who to listen to and for how long, it’s just a question of allocating time to it.

    Shoshinlobster
  • I’m deep into a trip with Ram Dass currently, on a podcast called Ram Dass Here and Now. It’s not all Buddhadharma, so to speak, but it is certainly Universal Dharma. And in the end, what’s the difference?

    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/ram-dass-here-and-now/id518366323?mt=2

    He’s a fascinating guy. His talks are witty and make me laugh, and then they also bring me home.

    I usually listen on my commute, and the combination of this and daily meditation is really starting to bring me back to the present, more and more frequently and for longer each time.

    ShoshinlobsterKerome
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran

    I like short to the point Dharma talks like the one @pegembara posted...

    (Hmm perhaps it has something to do with my short attention span ;) )

    federica
  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    (You and me both, @Shoshin ... It's possibly why I have 7 different knitting projects on the go!)

  • lobsterlobster Veteran

    It's possibly why I have 7 different knitting projects on the go!

    Kannon is that you? ;)

    KundoRowan1980
  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    Oh gee @lobster, you caught me out. Guilty as charged!

    lobster
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran
    edited April 3

    One set of Dharma Talks which I quite like is the podcasts by Ajahn Amaro done at Amaravati Monastery. He does one quite regularly on a variety of subjects.

    https://itunes.apple.com/nl/podcast/ajahn-amaro-podcast-by-amaravati/id935302697

    I’ve found it useful to listen on my iPad and then to use Access to Insight at the same time to examine various sutra’s that he mentions.

    adamcrossley
  • adamcrossleyadamcrossley Veteran
    edited April 3

    I turned off my podcast this morning as I neared work, looked around at the world a little differently, and had the following thought. Anything which prompts you intellectually to see the world in a fresh way and wonder about it, can be a Dharma talk. Einstein gave Dharma talks, The Matrix was a Dharma talk.

    Maybe a Dharma talk is the intellectual prompt that triggers the intuitive change.

    As far as I know, the thought of awakening is the only thought that leads beyond thinking.

    AlexlobsterShoshinKundo
  • lobsterlobster Veteran

    Maybe a Dharma talk is the intellectual prompt that triggers the intuitive change.

    Yes.
    Us Neo-Buddhists are awaiting the end of the intellectual and emotive fabrications that keep us slaves to the Matrix/Indra's Web .../dharma pop

    http://www.wiseattention.org/blog/2011/07/08/pop-culture/

    Alex
  • herbieherbie Veteran
    edited April 10

    @Shoshin said:
    There's nothing like the real deal, sitting in the presence of a renowned teacher and many of us have had the good fortune to do just that..

    However nowadays with modern technology nobody is missing out on Dharma talks by renowned teachers who are just a click away....

    From what I gather, Dharma talks are designed to give people what they need and not necessarily what they want..

    What's your take on Dharma Talks ?...( not necessarily just talks given by your own teacher if you have one...)

    How helpful are they/have they been to your practice ?

    Or are Dharma books more your thing ?

    Or perhaps both ?

    We have to get access to the teaching somehow... :)

    I have a more tantric view in this regard:
    Just as I am an emanation of buddha nature, so is every teacher I meet. Therefore the ultimate teacher is buddha nature.
    And yes since the the ultimate teacher is buddha nature emanation and need are not different.
    Just consider an embodied human teacher giving a talk. There may be two individuals listening to the same talk but understanding something completely different. Nevertheless their understanding may be helpful for each of them. Problems however may occur if they start discussing what the teacher meant because their understanding is different. They may lose all potential benefit through that discussion if obscurations dominate.

    In the desire realm the bodily presence of an human embodied teacher may be conducive. I find it inspiring. However ultimately there is no difference between an embodied teacher and an 'embodied' Dharma book. Both are emanations. As I read a Dharma book it occurs to me that I hear the voice of the author speaking to me in a very kind and well-intended way.

  • federicafederica seeker of the clear blue sky Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    @herbie said: ...Problems however may occur if they start discussing what the teacher meant because their understanding is different. They may lose all potential benefit through that discussion if obscurations dominate.

    On the other hand, @herbie, is it not also possible that one's own understanding can be enhanced and expanded, to include factors hitherto not considered, but brought to the fore by the other person? Not every situation with a Teacher brings about possible negative consequences...

    In the desire realm the bodily presence of an human embodied teacher may be conducive. I find it inspiring. However ultimately there is no difference between an embodied teacher and an 'embodied' Dharma book. Both are emanations. As I read a Dharma book it occurs to me that I hear the voice of the author speaking to me in a very kind and well-intended way.

    To restrict one's self to attending, listening to, understanding and accepting teachings gathered solely and uniquely via a Buddhist Ethos is extremely self-limiting, and unnecessarily restrictive.

    I can give an example:

    I remember hearing a discussion on Feng Shui by a supposed eminent and extremely well-known consultant in Feng Shui, who explained something in such complex terms that the majority of the class had difficulty understanding her intentions. Yet within the Realms and Discipline of Feng Shui, this woman's word is sacrosanct and her expertise unarguable. About 6 months later, I shared this information with a tutor of mine, in Shiatsu, and within 10 minutes he had explained in a few words, what she had been unable to clearly convey in an hour.
    Yet he was not a Feng Shui consultant or practitioner. he merely used what he knew of Feng Shui for his own purposes.

    So had I limited myself to only listening to purported experts or teachers, I might never have understood the concept of Elemental imbalances.

    Don't discount that which is not necessarily your path. All roads, ultimately, lead to Rome, and some routyes can be most entertaining and instructive....

  • herbieherbie Veteran
    edited April 10

    @federica said:

    @herbie said: ...Problems however may occur if they start discussing what the teacher meant because their understanding is different. They may lose all potential benefit through that discussion if obscurations dominate.

    On the other hand, @herbie, is it not also possible that one's own understanding can be enhanced and expanded, to include factors hitherto not considered, but brought to the fore by the other person? Not every situation with a Teacher brings about possible negative consequences...

    Of course. Everything is possible. Problems occur only if obscurations dominate.

    In the desire realm the bodily presence of an human embodied teacher may be conducive. I find it inspiring. However ultimately there is no difference between an embodied teacher and an 'embodied' Dharma book. Both are emanations. As I read a Dharma book it occurs to me that I hear the voice of the author speaking to me in a very kind and well-intended way.

    To restrict one's self to attending, listening to, understanding and accepting teachings gathered solely and uniquely via a Buddhist Ethos is extremely self-limiting, and unnecessarily restrictive.

    I can give an example: ...

    Great example! Of course since - from my perspective - the ultimate teacher is buddha nature the possibilities of receiving teachings are countless.
    I can give an example, too: when on a 2 days retreat in the woods at a lake the teacher appeared in the body of a frog. He was sitting next to me and taught me what no dharma talk or dharma book could ever convey.

  • personperson Don't believe everything you think the void Veteran

    I like the spoken word, it allows for the natural inflections and nuance in verbal communication. I mostly get my knowledge from audio, with the prevalence of recorded speech it allows for repeating sections if a concept is difficult or missed the first time.

    I don't know if its a matter of learning style but I've found it much easier for myself to digest information by listening and while moving than sitting still and reading. Also, having that mode as a base has made my reading more focused and enjoyable, though I often will walk around the house while reading.

    lobster
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran

    Are there any good apps out there for an iPhone that have dharma talks?

    Shoshin
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran
    DaltheJigsaw
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran
    edited April 20

    Headspace is quite popular these days, although I’m not sure if it does dharma talks. I often watch mine on YouTube.

    Rowan1980DaltheJigsaw
  • danielbelumdanielbelum Columbus, OH, USA New

    Lots of options as you mentioned due to tech (https://player.fm/featured/buddhist) but for me sitting with someone is pretty great.

    DaltheJigsaw
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator

    Podcast-wise, there's Audio Dharma, which also has an app.

    Rowan1980DaltheJigsaw
  • Rowan1980Rowan1980 Keeper of the Zoo Asheville, NC Veteran

    Now that I live in a city where I can regularly attend dharma talks in person, I am finding that I am getting a lot more out of it. I still buy and read books all the time, especially when they pertain to a specific subject within Buddhism (namely women and feminism in Buddhist contexts). When you it comes to the Dharma itself, I find that talks and lectures make it easier for me to understand.

    But also, books are shiny.

    ShoshinlobsterDaltheJigsaw
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran

    It would seem that through the self Dharma (in whatever form it takes) Talks to non-self...(often having to run the gauntlet of self doubt first...)

    adamcrossleyDaltheJigsaw
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