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That's true. But when does it become ludicrous? Being of Scottish descent, some people still resent Bruce, who lopped off heads over 600 years ago and the 'Harrying of Buchan'.
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I hope yall don't think I'm trolling. I was redaing through this part of the thread and I wanted to comment.
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Actually "giving & taking" practice goes back at least to Atisha's guru Serlingpa of Sumatra. Serlingpa may have learned it from some other Sumatran or Indian guru, I do not know, but …
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