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Pietro Pumokin;80098 said:idiot compassion is a disease sort of like syphillis but less bodily fluids involved. you get it if you knock twice on the door of denial, and three times on the window of foolishness, and it comes secretly and it slaps your cheek but without you knowing and it tastes like a flower but it sits in your stomach like a worm, and you usually get it around 3 o clock.
Palzang;80204 said:Idiot compassion is doing something for someone else that looks compassionate but really is for our own benefit or peace of mind. Palzang
Simonthepilgrim;80205 said: In Transactional Analysis, we call this "Rescuing", i.e doing something for someone when it has not been asked for but is based on our guess at the wants or needs. It is part of the "Drama Triangle" which is at the heart of all "games". As "games" are played in order to meet the players' 'benefit or peace of mind', or, more compellingly, to assert their very existence, bolstering the ego. So often, there is a real symbiosis between the "Rescuer" and the "Victim" which needs to be addressed as well. This can be seen in global politics when 'aid' encourages dependency rather than growth or is linked to favourable trade or imposition of an alien ethic.
Palzang;80259 said:Richard, I think most of us always put a hook into whatever we do, even if it's for a good cause, whether it's to feel good about ourselves, make us feel important, get revenge, whatever. It's really hard to do something just for the sake of compassion. One good way to practice doing that is to do something really nice for somebody anonymously, preferably somebody you'll never meet or even know. Palzang
Richard Herman;80323 said:There is also that ordinary goodness, that isnt "goodness" in any self conscious way. Like when someone stumbles in front of you and you automatically reach forward to hold the person, or when someone distractedly steps into an busy intersection and you automatically put your hand on his shoulder. Moving a snail off a busy sidewalk after a rain. That kind of thing. There is no notion of compassion at all, its like one hand comforting another wIthout a thought. I,m not sure if this basic goodness is the same as a cultivated compassion, or maybe it is the base for cultivation.
Richard Herman;80385 said:So it is better to have good intentions warped with self-view than bad intentions. But to truly act without a hook, isnt it best to act with no intention? The acts that seem to truly benefit , without blowback, are like that arent they? Not impulsive, but spontaneous and situational.
Palzang;80564 said:Allbuddha Bound, that story kind of reminds me of the story of the dog's tooth, if you're familiar with it. In other words, it's not so much what was intended but what is perceived by the recipient. Palzang
Allbuddha Bound;80639 said:I am unfamiliar with the story you mention, but I can see times where Idiot Compassion, may be of benefit to all. Especially when one thinks of an innocent person. Are there exceptions to Idiot Compassion? Does mindless compassion ever come to a desired end? I believe it may.
Subjectivity9;80755 said:Maybe we need to lighten up a little bit, and wash such terms right out of our vocabulary, once and for all.
Subjectivity9;80798 said:Are we going to lay every mistaken ever made at compassions door?
Subjectivity9;80825 said:Dazzle, I am sure your beloved teacher was very fine fellow in many ways, (I love his book, ' No Escape'). But saying that his choice of words, in this particular instance, left something to be desired doesn't take him away from you, and what you shared, now does it? Feathers need not fly over this. ; ^ ) If we say that he was perfect, in every way, that boarders on worshipping him, doesn't it? I don't believe that he would have wanted you to do that. Take a deep breath, and let's all be friends. : ^ ) Peace is a skill,S9
Subjectivity9;80832 said:In other words, like the Bhagavad Gita (Hindu) says, “You are not the doer.”