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Too much hate
NomaDBuddha
Scalpel wielder :) Bucharest Veteran
I barely began my last high-school year, and it seems that everyone in my class , except the girls (we are like 23 boys and 2 girls), is going loose. Today it seemed like a riot was about to start. From 7:30 AM untill 13:40 PM our attitude was that of hate. But, there is one colleague of mine who is like the king of all hate going on in that room, or, let's say, the riot starter. Everything he does, is to mock everyone, even with the price of making himself a fool. When this clown starts to act, some not-so-intellingent guys from behind the classroom begin to 'criticise' (what's the correct form of this word ?) that buffon's acts of stupidity.
The thing is, that we, as a class will suffer from his mockery.
The climax of this hate thing was at the Maths class, when this clown started to argue with the teacher about the math books that were ordered for us, and the clown proe-ordered them, and he said tha the didn't want, etc. This little argument covered even the standards of my collective, and by that, people began to insult each other. We were on the brink of beating the crap out of each other today.
Please tell me, what's going on ? How should I deal with this ? I've endured this chaos for three years and I'm fed up with it.
The thing is, that we, as a class will suffer from his mockery.
The climax of this hate thing was at the Maths class, when this clown started to argue with the teacher about the math books that were ordered for us, and the clown proe-ordered them, and he said tha the didn't want, etc. This little argument covered even the standards of my collective, and by that, people began to insult each other. We were on the brink of beating the crap out of each other today.
Please tell me, what's going on ? How should I deal with this ? I've endured this chaos for three years and I'm fed up with it.
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The only thing you can do is sit still and calm, don't let them draw you into their arguments and games. I was in a similar position to you when I was at school, there is really nothing else you can do. It is up to the teacher to control the class, not you.
Without some authority and discipline, what you are describing is nearing anarchy. Or at best mob rule. That doesn't work, especially in an educational institution.
Good luck!
Mtns
You would not get as many work oportunities without a highschool education.
The majority (not all) of the students are virtually out of control and due to weak leadership in Admin. and legal constraints placed over teachers, there is often unbelievably little that can be done.
Place students on detention? They just don't turn up!
Students skip classes and wander the hall ways all day and many of the teachers have all but given up.
Nomad Buddha, about all you can do is cling to your own core beliefs and sense of decency and responsibility and try not to get involved in the shenanigans of fools.
I really do feel for you as I have a fair idea of the circumstances in which you are trying to gain an education. Just try to remember that that is the reason you are there.
All the best, my friend.
To sum up, I didn't have anything better to occupy myself with and it's hard to respect 'authority' when say speak nonsense like "this exact thing you're doing at this very moment in time is the most important thing in your life" and apply it to everything.
Age-related bravado (Alpha male behaviour, strutting your stuff, ruffling feathers, leader-of-the-pack behaviour)....
Wrong people in charge.
Just because somebody (a teacher) knows something (their subject) it doesn't make them a good teacher. if they can't command the respect and attention of their pupils - who give these voluntarily, because they want to, because they believe the teacher merits it - then they have no place being a teacher.
I kind of think that there could be great Wisdom in that statement.
1. Some wacko lady who knows only to scream at us if we don't wear some useless uniform (in my high-school uniforms are mandatory- they are composed of a white T and a sawn emblem on it; in my opinion this is really useless). She doesn't care that we , as a whole school, didn't manage to qualify for any olympics. She just wants to see uniforms.
2. No there isn't. Those teachers want just to see if the student has the uniform and his hair-cut proper.
3. Well, not at all. We are dividede into 'churches' as we Romanians call them. And, the ones who seem to be out of control are those clowns. These are the ones who not only worsen their situation, but worsen the situation of the whole collective they belong to.
4. They said, but for four years nothing is done. I don't expect to see any changes before I leave the high-school to go to Medicine.
5. Surprisingly, it's not really the mobs rule. To put it simply, those clowns are the ones that will manifest physically and violently towards the ones in charge. The rest ( me included) will just don't give a damn about what's going on. The rest will want to either cut the 'bullshit' ( the time wasting buffonery of the clowns) or either to express the same things as the clowns do, only in a much more civilised way.
No, there is no Alpha male behaviour in a class where everybody tends to be a sole ruler of himself.
Yes, you are right about the teachers. They have threatened the clowns with Correction Exams ( I don't know how are they called in the West, but these kinds of exams are given a week before the new school year ends; the ones who take part at the exam are the ones who couldn't pass at some subject in both semesters and his grades' media on both semesters is below the pass limit) but to no use. These clowns don't care at all. The system in Romania works like this : why should I make a clown repeat the year, and thus to kill my neurons, while I can pass him and make my life easy ?.
Sorry to say, but in Romania there is no detention, but, there is the expell thing.
As I've seen today in my classroom, you could swear and cuss loudly during the class, and the teacher wouldn't do a thing to punish the one who did it.
I manage to avoid these clowns during the breaks, but during the class, their stupidity and their will to look stupid is just...hard to ignore.
Absolutely, it's just a matter of context. We are all aware that the here and now is the only thing that's eternal, everything else is past and future, so 'course what you're doing right now is what's most important. In the context of finger painting and everyday use of 'the here and now' concept, it's foolish.
That you refer to these people trapped in the cycle of conditioned existence as clowns is a problem. It's a problem for you. It's a problem because perceiving these people as clowns is an indication you are still fully trapped in your own cycle of conditioned existence.
You are being emotionally reactive. Being reactive means you are trapped in your conditioning. Your habitual patterns haven't seen a break yet.
These 'clowns' are clowns because they can't be otherwise. To react to conditions is the state we all find ourselves in. They behave as clowns because of their conditioning. You have certainly heard others and perhaps yourself use the expression "s/he really knows how to push my buttons."? In truth we don't have any buttons, but in our conditioned experience of life we do. A person says this or that or does this or that and we simply react emotionally. This is a conditioned response. This makes us slaves to the whims of circumstance. It's like we are programmed computers. If we receive a particular input then we react with a particular response. There is no element of choice involved. We are simply robots acting according to our programming. She says this, we react thusly.
That is the cycle you are currently trapped in and your choice of words reveals it.
If you wish to reduce/end your suffering then you need to learn how to move beyond emotional reactivity. That's the path the Buddha realized and taught us about.
Ultimately the question is do you wish to end this suffering for yourself or are you satisfied taking your grief here and expressing it?
And yes, I need that painkiller pill.
The thing is , that I don't react in a hateful way. I can even say that I don't react at all when chaos breaks out in my collective. I'm more surprised to find out that people who really want to put an end to the chaos will just behave like the ones who create it and they are, let's say, spreading the hatred and so on.
Boy, ain't THAT the truth?
The good part is, that I have another day to observe how the chaos behaves
Endure the class "fool", do not let him break you. You have the ability to be stronger then that.
We are all prisoners to our own cravings, set your craving for escaping your classmates free. Embrace him. Recognize that they are in worse shape then you are when they act out. Acting out is his response for coping with his own suffering. Sympathize with him, his suffering is all of our suffering
Practice practice practice.
- we were talking about the pool game and what we did yesterday (we went to the mall, played some pool, and then went to a KFC to eat something), and we got to the part were we criticisez the quietness of this guy, and his 'disability' to talk with some girls ( who were with us) at the mall.
- this guy couldn't even say a word, or, if he said something ,I couldn't hear; I tried to make him talk, but he couldn't , he said "I just told them ! I just spoke!", but nothing...;
- after I went into my desk ( I sit in the front row, the tiny guy sits in the last) the 'black sheep' in my classroom came to make fun of the quiet guy, asking him if he has a girlfriend, or any friends besides us.
- because he couldn't talk for himself, his deskmate ( in my country, we have two-person desks) said that the Q.G. (quiet guy) had a boy lover, and said why is that.
- Q.G. , as he told me , tried to counter-attack, but the ' black sheep' announced in the whole class (we were in the middle of Geography class) that the Q.G. is gay.
The next class ( Sports) the 'clown' started to make fun of him, by touching the Q.G.'s legs and other body parts, and so on, and everyone was making fun of him because of the gay thing.
I tried to help, but I can do nothing. I once pulled the Q.G. from a similar thing, but it seems really worthless.
What should I do ?