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An interesting BBC program about near death experience.
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Reminds me of this, from the great female practitioner Mayum Kunsang Dechen:
"The moment this trap of my material body falls apart, I will fly off like a bird escaping from a snare."
In other cases, the patient's brain was still functioning, so even though the patient woke up reporting things from an operation, the memories could be written off as a highly-coincidental dream of some sort.
One thing I found particularly interesting was her description of some of the specific surgical devices used during her operation, which were not visible to her either before or after the surgery.
The doctors' description of all this is far more intriguing than mine...
Dr. Sam Parnia in the video has wrapped up a 3 year study into NDE and has a book coming out in February 2013, The Lazerus Effect. There should be some more answers into what is happening here in that book.
http://www.thewarfareismental.net/b/2011/03/30/amp-5/
you have to scroll down about halfway.
Unfortunately, the reports you get on shows like the BBC stretch the actual facts and completely fail to inform the audience of mundane, common sense explanations. The link above gives you a detailed explanation of why Pam's case falls apart when examined closely. All these cases of NDE as well as the "boy remembering a past life" type of story fall apart when the actual facts are measured against the embellished story.
There's a great website on NDE -
http://near-death.com/experiences/buddhism02.html
If you wanna know why, Google "debunking Buddhism".
Augustine raising doubts about NDEs is not proof that having an open mind towards NDEs is irrational. If Mr. Augustine hasn't read serious academic works like Irreducible Mind which covers such subjects like NDEs and mystical experiences, he not up to date. But then I suspect that he has never read, cover to cover, the basic works of Dr. Raymond Moody, Dr. Kenneth Ring, and other important researchers.
Here is an educated skeptic turned NDE researcher, unlike Keith Augustine. Note his references to the Dalai Lama.
"[Dr. Peter] Fenwick's interest in near-death experiences was piqued when he read Raymond Moody's book Life After Life. Initially skeptical of Moody's anecdotal evidence, Fenwick reassessed his opinion after a discussion with one of his own patients, who described a near-death experience very similar to that of Moody's subjects. Since then, he has collected and analysed more than 300 examples of near-death experiences...."
"Dr Peter Fenwick is a neuropsychiatrist and neurophysiologist who is known for his studies of epilepsy and end-of-life phenomena. He is recognised as an authority on the relationship between the mind and the brain" (Wikipedia).
I am enjoying some of the ideas presented in this video, but I was kinda disturbed by the one researcher's takeaways. She mentioned something awesome, like "there's no 'me' in here" [pointing to the head/brain] and she explained that that was just conceptual overlay. I was like Yeah Truth! But then she said she could explain the whole dying process neurochemically / as if "neurons" in itself wasn't a conceptual overlay and I was like nuu you drove too far whyyy lol
Anyway, cool to know there's research being done. But, on a funnier note, it's been a while since I remembered how dry science can make even the most fascinating of experiences. When the chart came up "47% experienced deep peace" or whatever I kinda wanted to barf
It is important to note that PVL's studies are prospective — not retrospective. This is an important milestone in NDE research.