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Nirvana/ enlightenment

Hello!
After following the 8 fold path correctly, can the state of enlightenment/Nirvana be identified at a single point in time, where one minute you are not enlightened, and the next minute you are? Or is it more gradual?
Thanks

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  • lobsterlobster Veteran

    Hello :)

    Why do you ask? If you are awake there is no question. If you are not ... back to practice. Come to think of it ... if you are awake practice is a good plan anyways ...

    Unfortunately traditionally, awakening is not always revealed or discussed by the Sangha. However for your information every minute minute contains awakening ...

  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran

    After following the 8 fold path correctly, can the state of enlightenment/Nirvana be identified at a single point in time, where one minute you are not enlightened, and the next minute you are? Or is it more gradual?

    I'm reminded of this quote:

    "Don't practice to become Enlightened...Let your practice be the natural expression of your Enlightenment"

    I guess one could say it's not a goal, it's a journey, so the time in which one would like to reach their destination is not all that important....

    DhammaDragonJackson792lobsterFosdick
  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Veteran
    edited May 18

    It is not something we achieve but rather something we already are and just haven't found yet. Like when I go metal detecting. When I finally uncover something, it's not that it wasn't there before. I just had to dig through the dirt to find it.

    But to answer your question, my understanding is that it is both. Because the process is quite gradual but it can happen with particular lightbulb moments or experiences in an instant. When we look at things in terms of lifetimes though, it seems it is always a process. Just because something seems to happen in an instant in our current life doesn't mean it hasn't taken a very long time to get there. Such as what Eckhart Tolle has described his so-called awakening to be. I couldn't tell you if he was enlightened or not, I don't really think so myself because someone who is, I don't think, charges what he does for his seminars and so on, lol. But he described the major shift in his consciousness as a break through moment. Buddha too, basically (not comparing the 2).

    Back to my analogy, lol, there is always a moment when the coin/item isn't visible and then the next moment it is. But some of them appear as soon as you put the shovel in the dirt and some of them take a whole lot of sifting and searching to find. Always a process. But always a moment of delineation as well.

  • Jackson792Jackson792 USA New

    @lobster
    @Shoshin
    @DhammaDragon

    Thank you all very much. This has been extremely helpful

    DhammaDragonShoshinHozan
  • Jackson792Jackson792 USA New

    Thank you @karasti I appreciate so much the time you took for this response. It has been such a help.

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