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Did the Lord Buddha believe that all that is unwholesome is from delusion hate greed

BuddhaOdinBuddhaOdin
edited June 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Did he believe that what is unwholesome comes from hate delusion and greed.

How did he define unwholesome? Is it what causes suffering? But all from just 3 things?

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  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    One thing; ignorance (which allows all forms of aversion, etc., to arise). Ignorance leads to suffering because our view of reality is out-of-sync with actual reality. :) Unwholesome/unskillful refer to doing things in a way which does not lead to liberation -- does not create good conditions for the awakening of the mind.

    Greed, Aversion and Delusion are just our way of putting thoughts/actions into categories. We could split them up further if we wanted to, but generally everything fits into one of the categories. They are all born of ignorance though, so that's the big thing. Buddhism is about replacing that ignorance with self-knowledge born of the mind (wisdom) and so the 'root' of greed etc. no longer stands to support it.

    Namaste
  • BuddhaOdinBuddhaOdin
    edited June 2010
    Thanks. Did the Buddha say that delusion, hate and greed all stem from ignorance? Buddha seems to be right but is there other things that can cause unwholesomeness?
  • SherabDorjeSherabDorje
    edited June 2010
    No.
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    Ignorance is the root of all forms of aversion, greed and delusion. If there is no ignorance.....they can not arise. All of these things are taken in the context of what causes human mental suffering.

    Namaste
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited June 2010
    BuddhaOdin wrote: »
    Did he believe that what is unwholesome comes from hate delusion and greed.
    Hi

    In summary, yes.

    Of course, the Buddha listed many different kinds of hate, delusion and greed, such as anger, ill-will, jealously, arrogance, domineering, fear, confusion, lust, etc. However, all of these can be summarised in basically three ways.
    How did he define unwholesome? Is it what causes suffering?
    Yes. Unwholesome leads to pain, harm & suffering to oneself, another or both.

    See Kusala Sutta, Sammaditthi Sutta (paragraphs 3 to 8), Sallekha Sutta (paragraph 12 to 14) and Dvedhavitakka Sutta.

    Kind regards

    :)
  • BuddhaOdinBuddhaOdin
    edited June 2010
    I thought that ignorance could come from delusion; some people think knowledge isn't worth learning or they may believe they already know the truth so not bother searching for it.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited June 2010
    BuddhaOdin wrote: »
    Did the Buddha say that delusion, hate and greed all stem from ignorance?
    Yes.

    In Pali, the word for ignorance is 'avicca', which means 'not knowing'.

    :)
    What is the origin of ignorance? With the arising of the taints there is the arising of ignorance.

    What is the origin of the taints? With the arising of ignorance there is the arising of the taints.

    Sammaditthi Sutta
  • BuddhaOdinBuddhaOdin
    edited June 2010
    Thanks; your links are very helpfull, I am going to read them when I get time.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited June 2010
    BuddhaOdin wrote: »
    I thought that ignorance could come from delusion;
    These are essentially the same thing.

    Possibly, we can say ignorance is the underlying cause where as greed, hatred & delusion are grosser defilement that arise after sense experience.

    So internally, there is ignorance and delusion will burst forth after seeing or experiencing a sense object.

    :)

    Muyhati [Vedic muhyati, muh; def<SUPERSCRIPT>n</SUPERSCRIPT> Dhtp 343: mucchā- yaŋ; 460: vecitte; cp. moha & momuha] to get bewildered, to be infatuated, to become dull in one's senses, to be stupified.

    Avijjā (f.) [Sk. avidyā; fr. a + vid] ignorance;
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