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I like the freemasons. I used to make use of their research facilities and always found them friendly to the uninitiated, women and their fellow ritualists. I did once see about joining the heretical non conformist women included set but the basic premise is having to believe in a deity (relaxed a little in some quarters), buy aprons and talk and stand cryptically. Somehow not my mystery system . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-Freemasonry They are a magical wisdom system, similar to the esotercism of vajrayana. Are you one or a Templar? Are they compatible with Buddhism?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mystical_Order_Rosae_Crucis
you better believe in a big guy running it all.. At
least here in the south...no athiests allowed. Also, the
groups are still segregated here. Very much. Even the
come together conventions and how money goes up
and across.
The 'hook-ups' are applied according to
that. So much for brotherhood. :grumble:
The Freemasons in my town are going out of business and selling their building. Membership has declined sharply.
What research facilities are those, OP? "Friendly to women"? If they're so friendly, why not include women as members?
justify the 'boys only' club by providing one for
the wifee's. The difference is what goes on.
BIG difference. Boys will usually be boys, if no
girls are around, hahaha.
Masons were once upon a time more revered than Princes - they were responsible for architecture, protection, and status. Thus it was that the society of Masons was formed, to provide a secure Association of Highly-skilled craftsmen originally designed to protect the jobs and reputations of those who had the status of Mason.
The 'architects' of today's societies are therefore sought after and recruited.
Many people of high repute are Masons.
Please note, it's a society with secrets. Not as many suppose, a secret society.
My ex-H., my FiL and my husband are all members of the Masonic society.
And not just your average run of the mill Freemason.... Oh no, I believe his title is Grand Master Poobah or something along those lines. At most only 2 people down from the top/highest position in their hierarchy! I was completely shocked -- but only because he seems so ultimately 'average' and bland in just about every way imaginable.
Goes to show, you simply can't know very much about any person just by their appearance or manner alone, unless they want you to know!
bag of 'high society'....and a frat house.
I know at least 4 guys around me are one...
and well....I don't know about 'high repute', hahaha
Alot of them get away with stuff, illegal and otherwise,
because they 'know' someone in a high/right position.
It's become a hook-up system here.
From what the history books say...I do believe they
were the cream of the crop back in the
day....but now...if you can pay the money and stomach
initiation....you are in like flin!
I got to know her quite well and realised that she suffered from severe paranoia.
I remember talking to.her one day and she.stopped.and said "See that young girl there? She's watching me". This girl had a green bag which apparently was a sign she was a freemason!
http://www.ugle.org.uk/library-and-museum/ For the same reason you can not be a monk but are welcome to be a nun.
. . . Declining numbers may force them to accept women in the 'official' orders but somehow that option may escape them . . .
I would suggest offshoots of the Masons such as the 'Golden Dawn' made use of tantra.
Most Masonic rites are based on Hermetic, Christian, Judaic and Islamic ideas and principles. The Masons because alternative ideas are now less threatening, are far more open.
For as far back as I remember, there, on one of the highways, directly across the street from our one, large hospital, sat a somewhat unimpressive, square, brick building, only two stories high, with large sign that read "Masonic Lodge" in gold letters. Right there, for all to see, not hidden or 'mysterious' in any way.
In the 48 yrs of living here, never once was there even the slightest hint or suggestion of scandal concerning that Masonic lodge - or any member of it.
Not once. That is really, really unusual. (don't you think?)
Now, either they manage to keep anything illegal, questionable, or embarrassing completely covered up through members in the police department, (and I highly doubt that) or they thoroughly investigate potential members and simply do not tolerate shady characters joining the lodge.
I do know that over the decades the Masons, at least in this lodge, have evolved into more of a "businessman's brotherhood", than anything else.
My landlord always has "a friend" who is a carpenter, or owns a flooring store, or owns a hardware store, or is a mechanic, or a real estate broker, a lawyer, an electrician, etc. Always.
was not a general statement.
It is not a secret here. They are loud and proud.
Don't get me wrong...murder and hiding bodies is not going on,
and most of the incidents I know of would probably be
looked at as petty crime.
Emblems are placed on your car.....caught speeding
over 30 miles an hour over the limit? Thats normally a
trip to the pokey, but...if you have that golden thing
on your car....just a ticket. And don't worry, when the judge
sees your little drawing on the ticket....dismissed!
The emblems are also placed on store fronts and
signs.
I definetly feel like here, it needs to be cleaned up
a little...the frat house behavior, anyway. Also, the
segregation. Their moral code and standards are set
high, so it's a tall order, but an order they signed up
for, nonetheless. The characters might not be shady
here...but the money, gifts, and parties sure are.
I do want to say for the record, some of
my best community outreach programs
and feeding homeless families have involved
them, and when I needed numbers, and food
donated...they were there.
Oh don't worry... I didn't mean for my comments to be aimed at yours, specifically.
I was just chattin' about what I know of them here. I'm sure, like any organization anywhere, there are some local chapters better than others.
I'm sure there are some lodges of high standards and community involvement, and others well, not so much. Just like any other group....