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As above F**K off Kadampa

edited January 2006 in NewBuddhist.com
Why in in the name Queen Liz and that infant Bush is this sight taking adverts from those Brain washing freaks The New Kadampa cult?

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  • BrianBrian Detroit, MI Moderator
    edited January 2006
    If you object to an ad, please report it WITH THE URL FROM THE AD so I can actually do something about it. I have no say as to what content is presented in the ads, I can only block specific URLs. The ads are provided by Google, not me.
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited January 2006
    Herman,

    Show some tact once in a while.

    :angry:

    Jason
  • edited January 2006
    Jason,
    I am very sorry if you are offended. However these people are extremely dangerous. I know they are under a degree on scrutiny and I feel we also have a responsibily to the minors that use this site.
    I have seen first hand the conditions the student of the NKT live in and I must say that considering the wealth of this organisation I find it unacceptable they are treated in this way.
    Some of their students seemed to be "unwell" and when I entered into conversation with them I could not help but notice they were obsessed with Dorje Shugden. In fact they worship this deity like a god.

    With respect may suggest you take closer look up the NKT.
    Jason, again sorry for any offence.

    HH
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited January 2006
    Herman,

    Even if they are "dangerous", you don't need to us profanity to express that. I could care less about NKT, but I do care about the members [or readers] of this forum. Just be aware that this site is for all audiences [including possible minors as you've pointed out]. If you have a point, you may certainly well make it while be respectful. That is my only qulam.

    :)

    Jason
  • edited January 2006
    jason,
    Again I apologise to you because you are clearly offended. I always enjoy your posts and I am happy to take critism from you. However please look at NKT and maybe way up the threat of this post to minors.
    On the one hand you have HH losing it and regretfully offending you in the process and then other hand it is identified this site is carry adverts from organisation you would not let you children near and in my mind reinforced those negative stereotypes that surround eastern religion.

    Jason I respect your position but can please assure you I am the least you should offended about.

    HH
  • edited January 2006
    "I know very nice women in South Carolina who will cry if they hear people use such words in their presence. Purity of speech is part of their religion, upbringing, and daily life. I suggest that these ladies are not deficient in emotional health, just insistent on social graces being exhibited by those in the circles in which they move".

    Lordly, lordly I am beginning to feel as if I'm trapped in a Cohen Brothers movie. You are kidding right..?
  • edited January 2006
    What is Kadampa and the NKT?
    and as for the cussing in the thread title, I agree that persons of a certain age shouldn't be exposed to such language, but at least he didn't use the actual word.
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited January 2006
    Herman,

    I'm sorry if I seemed offended. I was in a hurry as I was leaving, and my post was very terse. I agree that it isn't the worst thing in the world. I myself have used a coarse word here and there on this site, but it is your constant abrasiveness that got my "offended" as you say. Just realize that it is not this site's fault what pops up on the advertisments. It is simply a random process generated by key words. While I do not agree with the NKT, I do not have to waste my time berating them. If asked about them, I will give my honest opinion. If not asked, I will leave them alone. The fire only burns you if you touch it.

    :)

    Jason
  • edited January 2006
    "but it is your constant abrasiveness that got my "offended" as you say".
    Well Jason you certainly have made your point. I try to take the opinion it takes all sorts to make the world we live in. I am sad you have taken such offence.
    As I have said before I have always enjoyed your posts and have never been upset or offended by them. I would like to regretfully offer some practical advice, if you are constantly offended by my presence and indeed have a dislike for my posts, don't bother to read them.
    If on the other hand you wish to carry on chatting I would be delighted and I will in the future be mindful of your recent comments.

    Best of luck.

    HH
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2006
    * HH, believe me, I am sure your warnings and misgivings have been noted, and as ever, those responsible are vigilant....
    But as I mentioned before, it is the right of everyone, equally, to use this forum until such a time as they prove they deserve to have this right removed.

    Nobody knows if they're offended by something UNTIL they've read them... How could it be otherwise..?

    And as has been pointed out by everyone, the forum is open to anyone without exception.... so just as you don't want a certain faction appearing and spreading their warped, misguided, manipulative message, thereby exposing the vulnerable to a negative influence, so it is the responsibility of those who already use the forum, to ensure the same protection. *
  • edited January 2006
    Federica,
    As that reads like a letter form my Brief. May I say again I agree with you with you totally.Is there any other further action you wish me to take?

    Your humble Storm Trooper,
    HH
  • BrianBrian Detroit, MI Moderator
    edited January 2006
    In HH's defense, there is no 'swearing' policy defined on this site, as it has a global audience. It is very difficult to define what is polite and offensive when so many cultures meet in one place. I decided when I started the site not to enable the swear filter because of this reason, and because I feel that we are all mature (even our younger members) enough to handle the occasional colourful word. They are just words, no need to get too attached ;)

    I think he did it in the nicest way possible, using asterisks to mark out the whole word, while still conveying the intent. If you really think about it, f*** is the same as "fuck" to everybody, even a very young child. So if you're going to type "f**k" you may as well type "fuck".

    Now, on to the ad issue:

    The ads are totally random, based on context of the page that contains them. So since this thread contains the word "kadampa" many times, chances are that ads about NKM will start appearing more frequently in this thread. They randomly load each time the page loads, and I have no say in the content of the ads except that google assures me they meet google's standards of advertisers - meaning no pornography, hate sites, etc.

    I do, however, have the ability to block advertisers wholesale from the site. In order to do that, I need the URL (the link) from the offending advertiser and then I can add it to the control panel to be blocked. If you see an ad that bothers you, copy the link and PM me so I can have it blocked in the future.

    :)
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited January 2006
    Herman,

    Of course we can continue to chat. I think you are just overreacting to what I've said. As a practicing Buddhist, I try to live my life accordingly [à la 8fld Pth]. On a Buddhist website, I try to speak accordingly. It is out of respect that I do this. Believe me, I can say a few words that would twist your socks into bunch around your ankles, but I have made it a point not to. If you honestly feel that what you say helps to contribute to the education of new Buddhists everywhere, then please feel free to say it as much as you like [if the language is ok with Brian, it's ok with me]. I will still read your posts, and if they have good points I will enjoy them; if they do not then I guess I won't--same as you would do mine. And, if you disagree with something that I've said, you are more than welcome to comment on that as well. It's what makes for an interesting dialogue.

    :)

    Jason
  • comicallyinsanecomicallyinsane Veteran
    edited January 2006
    I always say swear words are just words. Of corse I don't it a habit6 to swear too often but go ahead and swear away.
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited January 2006
    Brian wrote:
    In HH's defense, there is no 'swearing' policy defined on this site, as it has a global audience. It is very difficult to define what is polite and offensive when so many cultures meet in one place. I decided when I started the site not to enable the swear filter because of this reason, and because I feel that we are all mature (even our younger members) enough to handle the occasional colourful word. They are just words, no need to get too attached ;)

    :)

    Good point.

    I had a friend of mine (from Australia) who brought his visiting wife to dinner one night. After a little bit we were bantering and she made some comment that I retored with, "Well, I'd just have to kick your fanny" or something like that.

    Fanny is a very childish way of saying "butt" in the US.

    But not in Oz - down under, it means something totally different - and I could see why she was shocked.

    We eventually had a good laugh over the subject of colloquialisms.

    -bf
  • edited January 2006
    Well it's amazing what a word from the Gaffer does. For a moment there I felt I was the Wicker Man.
    You are ****** ***** but I luv you.
  • edited January 2006
    buddhafoot wrote:
    Fanny is a very childish way of saying "butt" in the US.

    But not in Oz - down under, it means something totally different - and I could see why she was shocked.

    Which is why in the UK we have bum bags and NOT fanny packs !!! :)
  • edited January 2006
    In the UK there are no bum bags in circulation. I appreciate there was a very difficult time in the mid-nineties when social change was taken place. Today in a country that embraces the free market and Pete Burns, bum bags have be banned along with Hoodies.
    What ever happened to that Thatcher women...?
  • edited January 2006
    Poor old Pete Burns and his monkey coat. He should be pitied.
    You're right of course about the bum bags no longer being around. I'd just been listening to some old-school electro/hip-hop and was having a bit of a nostalgic moment!

    "Six minutes, six minutes, six minutes Doug E Fresh you're on!" Ah, they don't make 'em like that any more !
  • edited January 2006
    Feel the Soul Sonic force......... man look at me gooooo. I'm doing the moon walk again.

    Christ my knee has body popped out of place.

    I believe those Street Sounds collections are worth some hard cash now.
  • edited January 2006
    I believe those Street Sounds collections are worth some hard cash now.

    Indeed they are. However, I managed to pick up a copy of "Electro - The Best Of Street Sounds" for a fiver in Brighton. It's like being 15 all over again - only I couldn't break dance when I was 15 let alone 35! I do have a mate at work that was part of the Peckham Posse though. He has fond memories of "battles" with the Croydon Crew!!

    Now there's an idea. Instead of having wars, the world leaders should turn up at a town center with a roll of lino and throw down some shapes in a B-Boy stylee! Whoever can windmill the best wins!
  • edited January 2006
    How many Electro titles were there? If I recall I got to about 5 and lost interest. When I think about it, you had Mantronix and Africa Bambarta on the same label...incredible!

    You had to have the right gear too. In my neck of the woods the look was a Deer Stawker hat, gold was big, Lacoste, Fila, Farah and Lois chunky flare cords with V's over those Nike Wimbledons( With the fat soles )..........I must not forget the wedge hair cut either.

    What has changed in my life since then. Nevermind all this soul searching, all I cared about was girls, money and girls. Simple pleasures.When you think about it this Buddhist thing is a bit of a lark isn't..?:winkc:
  • edited January 2006
    I think there were over 20 Electros released!
    Yep, it was all Kappa and Lacoste in the 'hood (Epsom) when I was growing up. I had confused dress sense at that age as I had no idea what kind of music I was into so picked bits of all the styles going around. Some people may have gotten away with it but on a chubby 15 year old it just looked a bit arse!
    I then got skinny in my late teens, discovered Goth and used to wander around Kingston dressed in black pretending to be miserable when really I was quite cheerful!
  • edited January 2006
    You are well posh then..... My influences came from Hounslow. I remember having the first Lacoste grey croc jumper. I thought I was the daddy. Still do.
  • NirvanaNirvana aka BUBBA   `     `   South Carolina, USA Veteran
    edited January 2006
    H.H., what did you do to Buddhafoot that made him go out and get a make-over?

    He was swell the way he was.

    WHAT did you say to him?

    I deleted my post. Meant no harm.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2006
    I know... That is some avatar.... cool cat!
  • edited January 2006
    Have you noticed he is wearing a apple as a helmut ? I think he had been meditating under his apple tree again. At that point of the apple doing an Issac Newton he must of become enlightened.

    HH
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2006
    oh, HH you are so wise! How could we not have seen that?!
  • edited January 2006
    Have you noticed he is wearing a apple as a helmut ? I think he had been meditating under his apple tree again. At that point of the apple doing an Issac Newton he must of become enlightened.

    HH

    At which point he said "Mew" !

    Mew/Mu geddit? I'll get my coat......
  • edited January 2006
    I am concerned as to the pressure he is under, now that he is the first enlightened cat. There is a great responsibilty that comes with being an enlightened cat.I would be grateful to you all if we all kept a close eye on him.
    There are signs to look for such as:

    A sudden disinterest in mousing

    An addiction to cat Nip

    Licking he privates in public.

    Also we must remember not to mention he has forefitting his nine lives.

    HH
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited January 2006
    It's a wonderful thing.

    I can poop in a box in the living room and women will still want to take me home.

    I can reach places with my tongue that I never dreamed of before!

    Hiyo!

    -bf
  • edited January 2006
    The whole look suits you though. It's reminds me strangely of Space 1999.
  • edited January 2006
    Actually I've been admiring the headgear myself - sure it would suit me - got the pattern?
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2006
    No.

    Knitwitch.
    Don't go there.

    he WILL get it for you.

    Somehow, he will.

    I know Buddhafoot.
    He's that kinda guy.

    He'll do it just to spite us, then get you to knit one for everyone.
  • edited January 2006
    Well you know me Federica, knit anything .... cat hats is a bit of a novelty though.
  • edited January 2006
    If you like cats in hats, what about these dashing little numbers then :
  • edited January 2006
    You are one sick puppy.
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited January 2006
    I think we should bottle whatever took this thread from abusing the NKT to cats in hats!

    BTW, my Siamese is deeply offended by the speciesim of the pictures. She belongs to the CPA, the Cats' Protection Army, the paramilitary wing of the RSPCA.
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited January 2006
    Frizzaire...

    Oo' are zees pretendaires to ma zhrone?

    Bah!, zees aire not kittees - zees aire swines! buffoons!

    -b ef
  • edited January 2006
    You are one sick puppy.

    Thank you! :lol:
    Those cat pics are taken from a Japanese site owned by a chap that advertises himself out as a tailor for cats. No honestly, he really does! He makes all manor of oddities and then get's his poor cats to model them!

    If you'd try to get our cat into any of those outfits you'd end up in casualty !!

    And on that note, I shall leave you with my favourite :
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited January 2006
    Frizzer wrote:
    Thank you! :lol:
    Those cat pics are taken from a Japanese site owned by a chap that advertises himself out as a tailor for cats. No honestly, he really does! He makes all manor of oddities and then get's his poor cats to model them!

    If you'd try to get our cat into any of those outfits you'd end up in casualty !!

    And on that note, I shall leave you with my favourite :

    Hey!

    That picture looks like some of Fede's avatars!

    Doesn't it look like something out of Breakfast at Tiffany's?

    -bf
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2006
    ...."Meeewn River....."
  • BrigidBrigid Veteran
    edited January 2006
    Hey, Frizzer!!!
    Hope you read this. Can you give me a link to that site? I've been laughing for over 45 minutes. I need more. Gotta have another fix. Please? I'm going to do this to my cats. Well, maybe I'll do it to just one of them. The calm one. I don't want to have to get another of those nasty shots.
    What's the website? All I have to go on is "cat clothes Japan". Came up with 675,788,456,677 sites. Gotta narrow it down.

    Thanking you in advance,
    Brigid
  • edited January 2006
    Here you go Brigid : Catprin - Tailor For Cats/

    I have those photos on my iPod. Whenever I have a bad day at work I have a look at them and it reminds me that no matter how bad work is, at least I'm not a cat being made to wear clothes !! :)

    Adrian.
  • MagwangMagwang Veteran
    edited January 2006
    federica wrote:
    ...."Meeewn River....."

    ...Cat's Breakfast at Tiffany's.

    ...sorry ...please delete this post.
  • BrigidBrigid Veteran
    edited January 2006
    Frizzer,
    LOL!
    Thank you soooooo much. I won't do it to my cats. Promise.
    I really love this site. It's brought me great joy!!

    Love,
    Brigid
  • edited January 2006
    You're more than welcome Brigid! :smilec:

    Adrian
  • edited January 2006
    Brigid wrote:
    Frizzer,
    LOL!
    Thank you soooooo much. I won't do it to my cats. Promise.
    I really love this site. It's brought me great joy!!

    Love,
    Brigid


    Hear hear! Me too. :rockon:
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