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Astrology for fun!
Anybody interested in astrology? No, not predictions... the psychological stuff! I am a Cancer and you?
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In the 60's, my mother was very into the personality profile side of astrology. Give her your time of birth and she will tell you things about your self that will make you hair stand on end.
My ex is a Scorpio. When we married I laughed at its prediction of doom, but turned out it was right!
My wife is an Aries and she's gentle as a lamb / stubborn as a ram.
No she was Taurus, Earth 8 Yin... But I'd have to do my calcualtions for the Animal of her year....
(The Avatar is a cover of a book which appeared in the year she died...She had more books published about her, in tribute, in the same year as her death, than any other celebrity has had, after their deaths. A 'record' which still stands today.)
Non-attachement, Points of View, simple opinions.... don't get hung up about it...
Besides I don't believe in Astrology... Arians are notoriouis sceptics, you see....!!
Hehe I'm one of them :rolleyesc
On, in answer to you're question, I'm a Cancer. That is about all I know about it
What a statement! lol.
I don't know if astrology really "works" per se. What I like is the way astrology provides a framework for mythical archetypes to be interpreted. The qualities represented by the planets are real, whether or not there is any scientific basis for assigning them to their respective planets is questionable I suppose.
Any merit for any astrological reading always falls on the reader which is a problem when debating about astrology.
An astrologer friend told me that Cancerians are the first true neurotics on the wheel of the zodiac. He also said that Virgoans (like my then wife) were born under that sign to prove to the rest of us that life is not meant to be all fun!
I've been doing a lot of discussion on this theme with my students this week as I found a news article saying that for a certain post, a company in China will only hire people born in the year of the Dog as they will have the personality required for the task (and no it wasn't security guard!)
The generalised ones tend to be a bit Delphic oracle in that they say things that must be true - Sagitarians will have to make a decision today - well of course they will - so will everyone else. Tea or coffee? Do I really want a biscuit with that? Bosh!
Simon,
That makes perfect sense. It would definitely explain why I travel throughout our cyber-Sangha quoting Suttas instead of joining in all the tom foolery! Life is certainly not meant to be all fun! As a matter of fact, this thread reminds me of the Brahmajala Sutta in which the Buddha expounds on wrong means of livlihood for bhikkhus:
... "Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins, feeding on the food of the faithful, make their living by such base arts, such wrong means of livelihood as palmistry, divining by signs, portents, dreams, body-marks, mouse-gnawing, fire-oblations, oblations from a ladle of husks, rice-powder, rice-grains, ghee or oil, from the mouth or of blood, reading the finger-tips, house- and garden-lore, skill in charms, ghost-lore, earth-house lore, snake-lore, poison-lore, rat-lore, bird-lore, crow-lore, foretelling a person's life-span, charms against arrows, knowledge of animals’ cries, the ascetic Gotama refrains from such base arts and wrong means of livelihood."
"Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins make their living by such base arts as judging the marks of gems, sticks, clothes, swords, spears, arrows, weapons, women, men, boys, girls, male and female slaves, elephants, horses, buffaloes, bulls, cows, goats, rams, cocks, quail, iguanas, bamboo-rats, tortoises, deer, the ascetic Gotama refrains from such base arts."
"Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins make their living by such base arts as predicting: ‘The chiefs will march out - the chiefs will march back’, "Our chiefs will advance and the other chiefs will retreat", ‘Our chiefs will win and the other chiefs will lose’, "'The other chiefs will win and ours will lose", ‘Thus there will be victory for one side and defeat for the other’, the ascetic Gotama refrains from such base arts."
"Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins make their living by such base arts as predicting an eclipse of the moon, the sun, a star; that the sun and moon will go on their proper course - will go astray; that a star will go on its proper course - will go astray; that there will be a shower of meteors, a blaze in the sky, an earthquake, thunder; a rising, setting, darkening, brightening of the moon, the sun, the stars; and ‘such will be the outcome of these things’, the ascetic Gotama refrains from such base arts and wrong means of livelihood."
"Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins make their living by such base arts as predicting good or bad rainfall; a good or bad harvest; security, danger; disease, health; or accounting, computing, calculating, poetic composition, philosophizing, the ascetic Gotama refrains from such base arts and wrong means of livelihood."
"Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins make their living by such base arts as arranging the giving and taking in marriage, engagements and divorces; [declaring the time for] saving and spending, bringing good or bad luck, procuring abortions, using spells to bind the tongue, binding the jaw, making the hands jerk, causing deafness, getting answers with a mirror, a girl-medium, a Deva; worshipping the sun or Great Brahma, breathing fire, invoking the Goddess of luck, the ascetic Gotama refrains from such base arts and wrong means of livelihood."
"Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins, feeding on the food of the faithful, make their living by such base arts, such wrong means of livelihood as appeasing the Devas and redeeming vows to them, making earth-house spells, causing virility or impotence, preparing and consecrating building sites, giving ritual rinsing's and bathing's, making sacrifices, giving emetics, purges, expectorants and phlegmagogues, giving ear-, eye-, nose-medicine, ointments and counter-ointments, eye-surgery, surgery, pediatry, using balms to counter the side-effects of previous remedies, the ascetic Gotama refrains from such base arts and wrong means of livelihood." It is, monks, for such elementary, inferior matters of moral practice that the worldling would praise the Tathágata.
"There are, monks, other matters, profound, hard to see, hard to understand, peaceful, excellent, beyond mere thought, subtle, to be experienced by the wise, which the Tathágata, having realized them by his own super-knowledge, proclaims, and about which those who would truthfully praise the Tathágata would rightly speak...
Jason
Does this mean that working in the medical industry would be seen as a wrong form of livelihood for a Buddhist or is the Sutta just referring to the practices of monks?
Cheers,
Adrian
There are a couple things implied in this line I believe. The first is speaking out against "quack doctors" who are out only to try and make a quick buck. The second is speaking out on how it is unappropriate for a monk to do certain things for profit [notice the "...feeding on the food of the faithful, make their living by such base arts..."]. One does not become a monk under the Buddha to predict the future, dispense medicines, draw or paint, etc., for gain. One ordains to practice virtue, mindfulness, meditation, and discernment for the Goal of Release. However, he did allow his monks the use of medicines for themselves and the application of medicines to others if there was such a need. Some were actually quite skilled in their knowledge of herbs and therapies. It is the practice of medicine for gain that is condemned here.
Jason
Cheers,
Adrian
i'm a dog too,i mean metal dog,nice to know another dog here.beside that i'm a taurus.so i'm the combination between dog and bull
Peace Kimberly
SimonThePilgrim,
It seems there are quite a few of us crabs here. Your pal Dalai Lama is also a cancer I beleive.
Neurotically yours,
B
Isn't this really just superstition??? I had an aunt that was into this stuff. She and I were both Scorpios. She kept telling me all this bizare "crap" based solely upon this astrology stuff. One of my ex's was also into it.....you notice she's my EX as she predicted our downfall......she drove us apart.....
I don't quite understand how reasonable people can be lead astray by this stuff?????:scratch:
That is correct. In fact, here is an article from 2001 on the Dalai Lama which I think is interesting:
The Dalai Lama's Journey:
http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0002585.HTM
I guess if someone based their life decisions around it then that can be considered superstitous, for many it's just fun.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=astrology
They were then asked to pass their horoscopes to the person on their right. That's when they found out that they all had the same horoscope.
That's more or less the gist of it.
Well, the body is about 70% water and the gravitational force of the moon affects the tide.
Extrapolate to a million trillion galaxies and there you go.
...but only a fool knows the future.
LMAO!!!
Predictions and superstitions do suck though.
Examples please.
HUH?
Here...
http://www.astrofaces.com/astrofaces/
Good God! Astrology has been proven to be absolutely true!:bowdown:
Admittedly though, I can't really call "strawman" because I haven't made an intelligible claim.
On a personal anecdotal note, the other day a girl came through the grocery store line and I asked her if she wanted "paper or plastic" and she demanded to know "DO I LOOK LIKE THE KIND OF PERSON THAT CARES!?"
I asked her if she was an Aries and she just blushed and said "yes".