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Ram Dass speaks on Trungpa Rinpoche perhaps his crazy wisdom

JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
edited June 2011 in Arts & Writings
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If you go to the top of a mountain. And there is a bird there. Don't think that you can fly too.

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  • Both Ram Dass and Chogyam Trungpa are mentioned in 'Stripping the Gurus'

    http://www.strippingthegurus.com/

  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited June 2011
    Yeah I have read stripping the gurus. You could start a thread about that but this one is an arts and writing thread about the video I linked. Thanks. Did you like the video?

    It reminds me of when @thickpaper called me a nattering nabobs of negativism.
  • edited June 2011
    Yeah I have read stripping the gurus. You could start a thread about that but this one is an arts and writing thread about the video I linked. Thanks. Did you like the video?

    It reminds me of when @thickpaper called me a nattering nabobs of negativism.
    Hi Jeffrey, the link didn't work for me when I clicked on it.(and 'Stripping the gurus, is a book, so its connected writings on the subject of Dass and Trungpa)


  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Sorry about that. I'll try again here
  • here

    If you go to the top of a mountain. And there is a bird there. Don't think that you can fly too.
    Too bad the man never hung out with Zen Masters. For what it's worth:

    No mountain, no bird, no place to fly to. Just a wise man drinking himself to death.

    And a group of disciples too invested in worshiping a Buddha to help one drunk old man.



  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Its like the movie a river runs through it when the brother, Norman Maclean says "I only know that my brother was a good fisherman". The brother who was a drinker played by Brad Pitt who had gotten involved with gamblers in wyoming town.

    Trungpa was an alcoholic. Trungpa was a brilliant writer.

    Once my father came back with
    another question. "Do you think
    I could have helped him?" he asked
    Even if I might have thought longer
    I would have made the same answer.
    "Do you think I could have helped
    him?" I answered. We stood waiting
    in deference to eachother. How
    can a question be answered that
    asks a lifetime of questions?

    After a long time he came with
    something he must have wanted to
    ask from the first. "Do you think
    it was just a stick-up and he tried
    to fight his way out? You know
    what I mean-that it wasn't connected
    with anything in his past."

    "The police don't know," I said.
    "But do you?" he asked, and I felt
    the implication. "I've said I've
    told you all I know. If you push
    me far enough, all I really know
    is that he was a fine fisherman."
    "You know more than that," my father
    said. "He was beautiful."
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    Trungpa was pretty degenerate as was his successor Osel Tenzin.
    Morale Discipline is part of the Buddhist path and for a teacher to not demonstrate it is extremly harmful.
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