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What does Buddha say about karma?

jlljll Veteran
edited July 2011 in Buddhism Basics
"The one who has made the karma, and the one who reaps the result is the same person. That is wrong view.The one who has made the karma, and the one who reaps the result is a different person is also wrong view. " The answer lies in the middle.

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  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    Please provide the source of the quote from a scripture. Thanks :)
  • thickpaperthickpaper Veteran
    "My karma ran over your dogma." ~Author Unknown
  • jlljll Veteran
    edited July 2011
    I was quoting Ayya Khema quoting Buddha, at a meditation retreat.
    "The one who has made the karma, and the one who reaps the result is the same person. That is wrong view.The one who has made the karma, and the one who reaps the result is a different person is also wrong view. " The answer lies in the middle.
  • SherabDorjeSherabDorje
    Maybe DD would actually give you a good scriptural source to study the question. What little this quote says hardly begins to cover the entire scope of the issue of karma.
  • thickpaperthickpaper Veteran
    I like this quote about it:

    "Like gravity, karma is so basic we often don't even notice it. " Sakyong Mipham

    Karma is so very simple. What we reap we sow. What we think we become.

    Not because of some majic force but because of the obvious and ancient law stated in Dhammapada 5.

    If you want to make the bath warmer, turn off the cold and turn on the hot.

    It is also represented by the ancient symbolism:

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  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited July 2011
    "The one who has made the karma, and the one who reaps the result is the same person. That is wrong view.The one who has made the karma, and the one who reaps the result is a different person is also wrong view. " The answer lies in the middle.
    This sounds like a paraphrase of SN 12.46. The Buddha is asked by a certain brahman, "Is the one who acts the same one who experiences [the results of the act]?" The Buddha replies, "'The one who acts is the same one who experiences,' is one extreme." The brahman then asks, "Is the one who acts someone other than the one who experiences?" To this the Buddha replies:
    "[To say,] 'The one who acts is someone other than the one who experiences,' is the second extreme. Avoiding both of these extremes, the Tathagata teaches the Dhamma by means of the middle: From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness. From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media. From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact. From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling. From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving. From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging/sustenance. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering.

    "Now from the remainderless fading & cessation of that very ignorance comes the cessation of fabrications. From the cessation of fabrications comes the cessation of consciousness. From the cessation of consciousness comes the cessation of name-&-form. From the cessation of name-&-form comes the cessation of the six sense media. From the cessation of the six sense media comes the cessation of contact. From the cessation of contact comes the cessation of feeling. From the cessation of feeling comes the cessation of craving. From the cessation of craving comes the cessation of clinging/sustenance. From the cessation of clinging/sustenance comes the cessation of becoming. From the cessation of becoming comes the cessation of birth. From the cessation of birth, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair all cease. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of stress & suffering."
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    yeah.
    What he said.
  • jlljll Veteran
    Thanks, Jason.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited July 2011
    Thanks, Jason. It is quite rare to read the Buddha teaching supramundane dhamma to a Brahmin who then becomes a layfollower (rather than a monk). :)
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