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hindu toileting procedures

edited November 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Hi.I am a student doing research into the toileting procedures of Hindus.I have only found that the left hand is used.I need to know is toilet paper/tissue not used,and any other relevant information.Thank you for all your answers and I apologise for my ignorance.

Comments

  • edited February 2006
    Perhaps a Hindu toilet would be the place to ask, rather than a Buddhist forum?
  • edited February 2006
    hi,sorry to offend,never ment that to happen got transfered to a forum without checking it was still Hinduism related.X
  • edited February 2006
    Shit happens if you'll excuse the pun. And many Hindus, if I remember correctly, use their left hand for cleaning, if you want graphic detail, just as do Muslims. I might be wrong on this but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited February 2006
    You might also find Yogic body-cleansing methods and procedures to be relevant...
    Flushing the sinuses with warm water, for example, and swallowing yards of muslin cloth soaked in lightly salted warm water, to cleanse out the stomach....Don't know if that helps.
  • edited February 2006
    warm water


    It doesn't have to be warm, but it does have to be salted.



    peirck,

    The left hand wipes and the right hand holds the lota behind the bum and pours the water. It's very clean. Anything else?
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited February 2006
    kowtaaia wrote:

    ...........................
    The left hand wipes and the right hand holds the lota behind the bum and pours the water. It's very clean. Anything else?

    It is, also, clumsy and messy for the unpractised!
  • edited February 2006
    federica wrote:
    swallowing yards of muslin cloth soaked in lightly salted warm water, to cleanse out the stomach....

    :eekblue: Did you make that one up.

    Somebody is pulling our collective leg with this thread.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited February 2006
    No, I swear, it's absolutely true.....it is an accepted and habitual method for yogic paractitioners ans swamis practising ayurveda (indian medicine) to perform and to recommend this inner cleansing method. .
  • edited February 2006
    It is, also, clumsy and messy for the unpractised!

    You learn very fast. Were you a toilet paper expert from the getgo? :)
  • edited February 2006
    "Were you a toilet paper expert from the getgo?"

    Little Johnny asked Sally.
  • edited February 2006
    federica wrote:
    You might also find Yogic body-cleansing methods and procedures to be relevant...
    Flushing the sinuses with warm water, for example, and swallowing yards of muslin cloth soaked in lightly salted warm water, to cleanse out the stomach....Don't know if that helps.

    Yep - that is absolutely true! A Neti pot can be used for cleaning the sinuses. :)
  • edited February 2006
    Makes those herbal enemas sound like a breeze. Does anyone know of anymore amazing cleansing techniques?
  • edited February 2006
    Don't know how "amazing" this is, but have you heard of tongue scraping?
  • edited February 2006
    I have tried the tongue scraping, its kinda like when the doctor sticks one of those dry wooden tongue depressors down your throat and says, say ah -- aaaarrrggghhhh!!!!!!!
  • edited February 2006
    One of my Indian friends related this story to me about his adventures with the dung eating pigs of Goa, India.

    Of course, the first duty of the day (at least in this village) is for the inhabitants to take a dump. While squatting, the pigs of Goa stand back licking their chops while they watch the shinny feces come out. Yes, it is breakfast time, too, for our sentient friends, the pigs.

    When, say, Mr. Sukadeva is done, a pig will come over to him and actually lick him clean so he doesn't have to wipe himself with his left hand. Then the pig proceeds to chow down on the remains.

    One day, my friend said he happened to be a little constipated. He had to squat for a while waiting for mother nature to do her work. Well, this particular pig finally lost patience. He came over to my friend and rooted his sphincter as if to say, "Hey, where is the crap man—I'm hungry? My friend said the pig almost knocked him over. But finally, the pig got his breakfast.
  • edited February 2006
    Dude... lucky i got a strong stomach

    I thought it was a cultural thing as oppossed to religious. When in south India they all ate with the right hand and wiped with the left - apparently regardless of religion.
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited February 2006
    twobitbob wrote:
    Dude... lucky i got a strong stomach

    I thought it was a cultural thing as oppossed to religious. When in south India they all ate with the right hand and wiped with the left - apparently regardless of religion.

    Same in the Gulf and throughout Arabia. Also same dislike of showing the soles of one's feet when sitting.
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited February 2006
    I know people that eat "clay".

    It's used as like Uber Roughage(sp?). It's supposed to remove any gunk in your intestines - and a couple of organs along the way.

    -bf
  • angulimalaangulimala Veteran
    edited February 2006
    i love this 'dirty talk' thread,
    we most indonesians are used to this cleaning style(barehanded cleaning),even most of us feel uneasy after using toilet paper without water,so i soak the paper with a little water before the action.and most of indonesians are more used to squatted style than seated toilet.
    i think it's just the matter of culture and habit
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited February 2006
    French toilets are notorious for being the "squat" variety... For some reason, this makes people squeamish, but expulsion of unwanted matter is far easier and more thorough... better for the intestines, as matter is less prone to building up and accumulating...

    I think all in all that didn't stray too far off 'decent'....?!
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited February 2006
    Sorry... I'm not diggin' it.

    What happens when you get the flu and you're in this "squatting" position? It's lucky one doesn't blow out their O-Ring.

    Plus, I'd rather just wash my hands after a "sit down" rather than have to wash my pantlegs, shoes, socks and ankles - hell!, just have to shower - after a "squat down".

    -bf
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited February 2006
    Oh, great... the "sprinkles when he tinkles" brigade......:hrm: :lol:
  • BrigidBrigid Veteran
    edited February 2006
    federica wrote:
    French toilets are notorious for being the "squat" variety... For some reason, this makes people squeamish, but expulsion of unwanted matter is far easier and more thorough... better for the intestines, as matter is less prone to building up and accumulating...

    I think all in all that didn't stray too far off 'decent'....?!

    I heard the same thing, Fede, that the squatting position is a more natural position in which to evacuate and produces better results all around. I've been told that the western style is not nearly as efficient a position.
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited February 2006
    Yeah, but it's great for reading and thinking...

    -bf
  • edited February 2006
    buddhafoot wrote:
    Sorry... I'm not diggin' it.

    What happens when you get the flu and you're in this "squatting" position? It's lucky one doesn't blow out their O-Ring.


    :eekblue: :grin:

    That's exactly what I was thinking! Give me a proper western style sitting down lav any day !
  • edited February 2006
    I guess this is one time when the Right hand doesn't want to know what the Left hand is doing!:wow:
  • edited February 2006
    LMAO! And whilst we're still being scatalogical here - Dogen could at times be somewhat anal himself. He prescribed a mindful way of going about this particular occassion, that involved the use of nine clay balls, toilet paper not being used in 13th Century Japan. Yep right down to the number. In Soto Zen monasteries to this day, if a student is being just too rigid about how things are to be done, invariably someone will make a comment about, "nine clay balls".
  • angulimalaangulimala Veteran
    edited February 2006
    buddhafoot wrote:
    Sorry... I'm not diggin' it.

    What happens when you get the flu and you're in this "squatting" position? It's lucky one doesn't blow out their O-Ring.

    Plus, I'd rather just wash my hands after a "sit down" rather than have to wash my pantlegs, shoes, socks and ankles - hell!, just have to shower - after a "squat down".

    -bf
    LOL,bf it wouldnt be a big problem for those 'squatting' position style experts,they can aim at the target even with the eyes shut.
    IMHO if you want to relax,stay for a long time the 'sit down' is what i suggest, but if you want to get the business done ASAP the 'squatting' position is the choice cause you cant squat long enough unless you have a pair of steel legs.
    my choice?i use the western style,cause i like to relax and yes i have a shower after the business
  • edited February 2006
    You take a shower every time after you use the toilet? I wish I had time for that!

    I prefer to squat in ALL public bathrooms...they gross me out completely!

    Are we a close bunch, or what??
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited February 2006
    yeah... I've been thinking...

    "TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!!!" recently...


    -bf
  • angulimalaangulimala Veteran
    edited February 2006
    YogaMama wrote:
    You take a shower every time after you use the toilet? I wish I had time for that!
    well of course not, just after passing the solid matter
  • edited February 2006
    Hi, Just to say a big thanks to all you lovely people (I've learnt more than anticipated) It's great to see that toilet humour is the same the world over!!
  • queristquerist Explorer
    edited November 2010
    I've been to various Asian countries enough times that I actually PREFER the squat toilets. Your bottom doesn't touch anything and it's actually easier to use than a seated toilet.

    The tricky part is remembering to pull your trousers down only to just above your knees. That way, you don't risk hitting them with anything. (Pro tip: pull your underwear over the top of your trousers after you pull them down to prevent things from falling out of your pockets.)
    angulimala wrote: »
    LOL,bf it wouldnt be a big problem for those 'squatting' position style experts,they can aim at the target even with the eyes shut.
    IMHO if you want to relax,stay for a long time the 'sit down' is what i suggest, but if you want to get the business done ASAP the 'squatting' position is the choice cause you cant squat long enough unless you have a pair of steel legs.
    my choice?i use the western style,cause i like to relax and yes i have a shower after the business
  • CinorjerCinorjer Veteran
    edited November 2010
    OK, I managed to make it to the pigs before I squirked out.

    Just when you think you've heard it all....
  • ShiftPlusOneShiftPlusOne Veteran
    edited November 2010
    Squat toilets are the best. Thanks for the tips querist.

    Anyway, the reason some people in India don't use paper for the purpose is because paper is considered sacred... a tool for education and storage of wisdom. And I think the left hand is used because the right hand is used for food.... and you don't want to mix the two up.

    I found Malaysia pretty weird in this aspect. They have hoses in each cubicle. I just can't see a way that can be done neatly.
  • CinorjerCinorjer Veteran
    edited November 2010
    I still have yet to experience my first bidet, and I don't really know why someone would want a wet bum. You'd think it would make the toilet paper tear.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited November 2010
    Europe is full of them.
    They're particularly useful for soaking your smalls overnight, particularly if you're a college student in digs, and the communal washing machine always packs up.

    Or, as a hotel tourist, you can rinse your swimming stuff in there while you go down to dinner....

    Good for washing feet, if you've had a good walk.

    Oh, and some people who confine "Just having a quick wash" to the bathroom basin, end up mixing 'top' bacteria with 'nether region' bacteria.
    not a nice thought....

    So, in the basin, you wash down as far as possible, then you wash up as far as possible... then to the bidet, to wash 'possible'.

    Simple really. ;)
  • ShiftPlusOneShiftPlusOne Veteran
    edited November 2010
    Because it's considered to be more hygienic.
    The paper is just used for drying, so it wouldn't tear.
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