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Ethics of Graffiti

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  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    "And if you classify non-violence as not hurting feelings then that means that graffiti is off limits."

    hurting feelings? hurting feelings?!

    now that's just society being a softy with no honor.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited July 2011
    You have no respect for the public and therefore no honor.

    Anyhow if you are so bold how about you walk right next to a police officer and spray paint something? I'm not telling you whats right I am telling you whats going to happen and its not ahimsa to get yourself busted for something that harms others belongings.
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    well the cops are only following ahimsa when they fine you or haul you in the station to protect the public property.
    I don't like either polices or thieves.
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    You have no respect for the public and therefore no honor.
    You don't know me face to face to be writting such insults.

    lay it off, apologizer.
  • YishaiYishai Veteran
    I mean, nobody is debating the point that the material property that is vandalized is "empty" and it's only attachment that causes suffering and anguish from said property damage. If we were all Buddhist, we could all be happy, but that's not the case.

    Who do you point the finger at, the people who have a problem with an act or do you point the finger at the act itself?
  • YishaiYishai Veteran
    edited July 2011
    well the cops are only following ahimsa when they fine you or haul you in the station to protect the public property.
    I don't like either polices or thieves.
    Thieves aren't being unethical though. They can(and do, frequently) follow ahimsa.

  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    I judge you by your lack of respect for public property. You announced your belief and therefore I can judge your disrespectful belief.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Murderers are empty too.
  • YishaiYishai Veteran
    Lol, my girlfriend just said: "Debating ethics gets us nowhere". In a way, I guess I have to agree and excuse myself from this argument/debate.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Anyhow I think the site has a policy against encouraging behaviour against the law and I will flag it if it contninues.
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    Grafitti is reversible... with more paint!
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited July 2011
    ok so if I paint your computer monitor black is that ok because it is reversible.
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    Anyhow I think the site has a policy against encouraging behaviour against the law and I will flag it if it contninues.
    there's lawful Graffit! if it takes more than ~20 minutes to finish, permission/legaleze by the respective "owners" is a must!
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    If its permission then it is lawful. If its done without permission then it is illegal.
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    ok so if I paint your computer monitor black is that ok because it is reversible.
    yes, because it is made of glass... just the display plz! because if you paint the keys, it will damage the motherboard...

    it will be a very zen couple of days...
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    If its permission then it is lawful. If its done without permission then it is illegal.
    what about some small & quick graffit?
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    nope
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    If its permission then it is lawful. If its done without permission then it is illegal.
    what about some small & quick graffit?
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Aside from what beliefs we have of graffiti its a fact that you will be penalized if you are caught.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    small quick graffiti is also against the law unless it is given permission by the authorities if public and given by the owner if private.
  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran
    Go tag someone's car or house. See if somebody suffers from it. That's all. You need not look past that to find the ethics. That's all I'm saying.
    I reserve the "right" to do grafitti... unless I think it will harm someone?

    what are people, softies? can ppl really be so... repressed as to not allow someone using painting over some random piece of stone?
    It isn't up to YOU.

  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Are you such a softy that you object to the attention of the police when you paint on the stone?
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    edited July 2011
    besides buddhist I'm anarchist

    // this should be moved to /members
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited July 2011
    Well I can respect that even though I am not an anarchist. It is interesting your views. I don't respect destruction however. Thats just not in me.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    I don't think it should be in members I think either we should discuss graffiti from a buddhist perspective or it should go to general banter.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    I've seen some pointless threads in my time, but this is ridiculous.
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    edited July 2011
    can't the sangha even discuss a simple topic as:
    Graffiti is not always vandalism.

    is it THAT difficult? really?

    I must presume... that only Cloud has access to jhāna then...
  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran
    What you fail to realize is that Buddhism is based, to a large extent, on mindfulness. And mindfulness implies a sense of self-control. Which you appear to have none of. You just feel as if you should be able to anything you please. That's not mindfulness.
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    none mindfulness? or no mindfulness?
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