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Mind-altering drugs (of the prescribed kind)

edited August 2011 in Buddhism Today
Reading the thread about marijuana and meditation has got me wondering about the drugs I'm taking.

My shrink has prescribed me a slow-release form of methylphenidate (perhaps better known as Ritalin) for ADHD. It is no exaggeration to say that these meds have profoundly changed my life for the better. I still very much suffer from the symptoms of ADHD, but I have some semblance of control over them and I've gone from being a deeply depressed, chronically angry underachiever to someone who sees a fairly bright future for herself. I don't think I would actually have been able to embrace Buddhism, much less get anywhere with meditation, had it not been for the improved ability to focus and apply myself to an endeavour that this medicine affords. However, since methylphenidate is technically a stimulant drug, is this getting in the way of my achieving enlightenment? I don't actually get any kind of 'buzz' from it at all and the same is true of other stimulants like caffeine, but it does alter my state of mind, therefore doubt has crept in as to whether the two (enlightenment and psychiatric meds) can go together.

Comments

  • Relax - the meds are a bridge to practice - cross gratefully - don't worry too much about achieving enlightenment - stay with practice - it's very enlightening.
  • Hi:

    You can call them a loan. But one u definitely need..
    just keep in mind that the drug any time can stop working, it can bring secondary effects,etc. So its time to work hard in what it needs to be worked -_-.

    With metta.
  • edited August 2011
    Take a look at the following:

    http://www.wcbsthailand.com/download/c1_pdf/Mindfulness ADHD-Zylowska et al.pdf

    It's an article titled "Mindfulness Meditation Training in Adults
    and Adolescents With ADHD," published in the Journal of Attention Disorders OnlineFirst.

    Alan
  • Things such as mindfulness training and cognitive therapy can help anyone build the behavioral framework to help alleviate the symptoms of various illnesses, but that does not mean they should replace prescribed medications. All treatments should be approached under the care and guidance of a medical professional. Same goes for someone's Buddhist practice.

    Also, none of us here know your personal situation as well as you and your health professional(s), so don't base your medical decisions off of a forum consensus. On the other hand, not all psychiatrists and psychologists are as open to these new therapies as others, so you can always feel free to shop around if these sorts of things appeal to you. On that note, you may want to check out Jon Kabat-Zinn's book "Full Catastrophe Living":

    http://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Wisdom-Illness/dp/0385303122
  • shanyinshanyin Novice Yogin Sault Ontario Veteran
    You seem to be able to meditate, and form logical sentences. You can meditate, keep the precepts and probably try to realize the four noble truths.

    It seems fessible to me that mind altering medication aka. prescription drugs can get in the way of enlightenmnent. Perhaps if you want an expert opinion talk to a monk in your area and he/she can give some insight? My opinioni is we're talking about the middle way here, and stopping taking a medication which has helped your life for the better may/seems to be an extreme for a lay person.

    Don't worry, keep taking them and take my advice with a grain of salt, and maybe talk to a monk, and a doctor.

    I recently stopped my medication and mindfulness meditation is completely out of the question, that's how weird I feel.

    I can think of 2 friends in an instant who sincerely told me that ADHD medication helped them focus and overcome sort of mental anxieties in school.
  • not1not2not1not2 Veteran
    edited August 2011
    I've come across multiple instances where some Buddhist teacher or meditation center advises prospective meditators to consult with their health professional if they have diagnosed disorders, as some forms of meditation, especially in a retreat setting, can bring about adverse symptoms among certain individuals. So do be careful with the intensity of meditation you practice with. Chances are you'll be completely fine, but just keep self-aware and if you notice any significant changes in the quality of your state of mind, don't be afraid to back off and assess the situation.
  • shanyinshanyin Novice Yogin Sault Ontario Veteran
    Yes, that seems like a good idea. I went on my first retreat for a month and... well bassically had a breakdown. (diagnosed pre-pychotic years ago and prescribed.)

    Metta meditation seems to be right for me now.
  • shanyinshanyin Novice Yogin Sault Ontario Veteran
    May I ask what ADHD medication it is?

    A friend told me about an experience he had with a certain kind I want to share.
  • Things such as mindfulness training and cognitive therapy can help anyone build the behavioral framework to help alleviate the symptoms of various illnesses, but that does not mean they should replace prescribed medications. All treatments should be approached under the care and guidance of a medical professional. Same goes for someone's Buddhist practice.
    I hope that I didn't give the impression with my previous post that I was suggesting replacing the OP's medication with mindfulness meditation. That wasn't my intention at all. The article I cited does state that "Stimulant medications are the most effective treatment for ADHD as shown in numerous randomized clinical trials." Rather, I simply wanted to indicate that mindfulness meditation could potentially be beneficial for the OP's condition. It's something the OP might want to bring up with her therapist.

    Alan
  • Things such as mindfulness training and cognitive therapy can help anyone build the behavioral framework to help alleviate the symptoms of various illnesses, but that does not mean they should replace prescribed medications. All treatments should be approached under the care and guidance of a medical professional. Same goes for someone's Buddhist practice.
    I hope that I didn't give the impression with my previous post that I was suggesting replacing the OP's medication with mindfulness meditation. That wasn't my intention at all. The article I cited does state that "Stimulant medications are the most effective treatment for ADHD as shown in numerous randomized clinical trials." Rather, I simply wanted to indicate that mindfulness meditation could potentially be beneficial for the OP's condition. It's something the OP might want to bring up with her therapist.

    Alan
    No, you didn't give that impression, I just felt it was important to say that. I always worry that forum advice dealing with mental health issues will be taken without consulting their doctor. So I guess my post was a 'just in case' disclaimer.

  • May I ask what ADHD medication it is?

    A friend told me about an experience he had with a certain kind I want to share.
    It's called methylphenidate. The type I am on has the brand name Concerta XL 18mg.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited August 2011
    ...doubt has crept in as to whether the two (enlightenment and psychiatric meds) can go together.
    dear Vix

    my honest reply concurs with your suspicions, that meds can be an obstacle to enlightenment

    however, we need to be very careful here because it seems apparent you require the meds

    my suggestion is to try to find a good meditation group to practise with

    by "good", i mean a group with strong integrity & morals; a group that feels and is very trustworthy & safe

    joining a good meditation/dharma group can very much help to settle our mind because in a good group our mind increases its sense of trust & self-love

    our mind sheds alot of its fears & uncertainties

    most people feel as though they are "returning home" when they attend a (good) Buddhist centre

    then, if you feel an improvement in your sense of being, then you can begin to examine the extent of the medication you require, in consultation with your medical practitioner

    but, for me, i believe finding a good meditation/dharma group of trustworthy sincere practitioners is the appropriate starting point

    may you be at ease

    DD :)

  • I was informed politely by somebody on here (a while ago) that Buddha was enthusiastic about medicine, so as long as they work for you, try not to worry about it :)
  • @Weird_Artist - I shall do just that. Thank you!
  • Take a look at the following:

    http://www.wcbsthailand.com/download/c1_pdf/Mindfulness ADHD-Zylowska et al.pdf

    It's an article titled "Mindfulness Meditation Training in Adults
    and Adolescents With ADHD," published in the Journal of Attention Disorders OnlineFirst.

    Alan
    I don't have an attention span long enough to read the whole thing, lol. Could you simplify it for me?

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