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Jim Carrey on the Power of Intention.

DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
edited August 2011 in Buddhism Today
http://enter.eckharttolletv.com Jim Carrey puts words around the power of intention, and the potential for transformational media. Recorded at the 2009 Inaugural GATE Event (Global Alliance for Transformational Entertainment) Video was Shot and Produced by Eckhart Tolle TV. Eckhart Tolle TV is an online video network offering of transformational video content featuring Eckhart Tolle & Kim Eng.

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  • Thanks for sharing :D
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Thanks for sharing :D
    Welcome!
    Was wondering when someone would finally respond!:)
    Thank you for watching!
  • I have been a Jim Carrey fan for a while, so I was interested to hear him speak on this. I did not know his beliefs until now either. I have never heard of Eckhart Tolle, have you read any of his books ?
  • edited August 2011
    New thought movement? , I believe.
  • He just teaches that you should remain in the present moment. His book is a couple of hundred pages which repeat that over and over again.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    He just teaches that you should remain in the present moment. His book is a couple of hundred pages which repeat that over and over again.
    pretty much!:0
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    New thought movement? , I believe.
    It has been going on for a while now. New Age Movement continuation!~
  • Eckhart Tolle
    He advocates the "present moment" based on greed for personal enjoyment. Buddhists are wasting their time reading outside spiritual teachings.

  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Eckhart Tolle
    He advocates the "present moment" based on greed for personal enjoyment. Buddhists are wasting their time reading outside spiritual teachings.

    Are they?
    It sounds like something a Christian would say!:) I know I will get heat for this!:) But, have to throw that out there.

  • Desire is the only game there is... That is why it is hard to let go of. The present moment is where we do that.
  • Eckhart Tolle
    He advocates the "present moment" based on greed for personal enjoyment. Buddhists are wasting their time reading outside spiritual teachings.

    Indubitably.
    Apparently you've read some different person named Eckhart Tolle than the one I've read, 'cause that's not AT ALL what I got out of any of his stuff, ever. In fact, his writings are what finally pushed me over the edge toward Buddhism in the first place.

    Not indubitably at all...
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    You
    Eckhart Tolle
    He advocates the "present moment" based on greed for personal enjoyment. Buddhists are wasting their time reading outside spiritual teachings.

    You're confusing him with the Authors of "The Secret" and "The Law of Attraction" which do precisely advocate personal gain.
    Eckhart Tolle is a different kettle of fish.
    You need to do some more research.

    Indubitably.
  • It's everyone's freedom to read whatever they like, but it's a hinderance when Buddhists waste their time on stuff that's "similar to Buddhism, but isn't".

  • edited August 2011
    Are they?
    It sounds like something a Christian would say!:) I know I will get heat for this!:) But, have to throw that out there.
    Just because Buddhism tolerate other teachings doesn't mean they won't discourage people from wasting time on ways that doesn't lead to liberation.

    Sure many things that are "not Buddhism" helps one enter Buddhism. But once your in, why would you not learn from reliable sources and methods taught by the Buddha? Why waste your time on people who can't even hold down one practice?

    The only reason why I am saying this on here is because everyone is already practicing Buddhism.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Are they?
    It sounds like something a Christian would say!:) I know I will get heat for this!:) But, have to throw that out there.
    Just because Buddhism tolerate other teachings doesn't mean they won't discourage people from wasting time on ways that doesn't lead to liberation.

    Sure many things that are "not Buddhism" helps one enter Buddhism. But once your in, why would you not learn from reliable sources and methods taught by the Buddha? Why waste your time on people who can't even hold down one practice?

    The only reason why I am saying this on here is because everyone is already practicing Buddhism.
    Thanks for clearing this up for me!:)
    I now understand where you coming from.
  • I've never listened to or read anything by Eckard Tolle so I can't really comment about him; however I do know other committed Buddhists that listen to his teachings and do some of the suggested exercises. From what they tell me it's a very specific type of practice where, after first cultivating mindfulness, you identify the space between thoughts and seek absorption (not sure he uses that term or anything like it, I'm guessing) in that moment. If you have a regular Buddhist practice, and are taking refuge in the Buddha, only, and, especially, if you discuss it with your teacher, I can't see how this kind of practice is harmful. On the contrary it might help some practitioners achieve absorptions more quickly. But your teacher would know a lot better than me. As far as I know there's no religious connotation or object or mantra, etc. that's used in these meditations; if there were I'd reject them out of hand (see below). I think the only worry would be that the practitioner might stop doing some of the practices their teacher gave them.

    My own teacher has previously given permission for students to do 10 day retreats at Goenka centers---whatever helped them to reach SHI NEY (Shamatha), even though it's in a totally different tradition (yes, I know they are both Buddhist, but going from Tibetan practice to Goenka is bit of a change).

    I personally don't think that getting to meditation is necessarily a sectarian thing. It's a tool---a way to concentrate your mind on a single object and become absorbed in a non-dual way; it's not a religious experience in and of itself, although it IS a very intense experience. The type of object and instructions (if they involve mantra, for example) that give it a religious context. I don't think Buddhists should ever practice meditations which use Hindu objects or mantra, for example because it might lead to attachment to this non-Buddhist object.


  • Man, I had no idea Buddhism was SO dogmatic!! So we're supposed to submit proposed readings to the censorship committee for approval or rejection?

    Wow... maybe they showed me the secret handshake too soon.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Man, I had no idea Buddhism was SO dogmatic!! So we're supposed to submit proposed readings to the censorship committee for approval or rejection?

    Wow... maybe they showed me the secret handshake too soon.

    LOL!!!

  • GuyCGuyC Veteran
    "I'm the crack dealer" - ha! best part!
  • OK, let's talk about what Jim Carrey said. Not who or what Eckard Tolle and his message is all about, but what Jim Carrey the human being seems to be trying to share about himself.

    First, the jestors and entertainers of the world have always fascinated me, because that business is designed to foster excess, and it's amazing that so many manage not to crash and burn. Jim Carrey starts by talking about the "dancing monkey", the public jester act that provided fame and fortune, and contrasts that with his private life, where his mother was chronically ill and he couldn't help. No matter what good things he did or happened to him in life, it couldn't fix the bad things.

    This is Dukkha in a nutshell. I can identify even to the journal he mentions keeping, and that "Aha!" moment when he read the Noble Truths by Buddha.

    He talks about intentions. Here he must be using some sort of terminology from Tolle's teachings that doesn't mean what I think it does, because I don't quite understand what he's getting at. "Nothing happens without intention?" No, things happen in spite of our intentions, and what we intend to do and the results of our actions are two entirely separate things, often conflicting.

    Then he talks about not watching an exciting event, but being part of it. I guess that's his way of illustrating being in the moment. If he's trying to say, just put aside your ego and experience the situation without comment, he's not saying it the way I would. You don't become the ball game. In fact, people make a huge mistake all the time, identifying with something outside themselves like that. Every football hooligan identifies with "their team" as if they were the guys on the field. Instead, you observe without comment. Sky is blue, but sky is still sky and you are still you. You aren't the sky.

    But for a man like Jim Carrey who is used to putting on a mask and pretending to be someone else, or having the world treat him as if the mask is all he is, when he tries to be part of life, dropping that mask and just joining the world totally has to be part of what keeps him sane. Since in some way we all have that problem, where the roles we play--husband or wife, employee, parent, or party animal--don't eliminate the Dukkha, we can identify.

    Anyway, this is what I took away from his brief comments.

  • Enjoyed it, thanks for posting. :cool:
  • @cinorjer.
    With respect, the comments in your post display your total lack of realisation.
    The game is not separate from nor outside of you, and neither is the sky.
    While facing the sky there is no self separate from the sky. There's just the sky.
    Try to find a self, or awareness, or an experiencer separate from experience.
    "You" are the sum total of experience in the present moment. If there was no experience there would be nothing.
    This is what he means.
  • @Temporary_arising
    With respect, my understanding is where it should be.

    To lose oneself in the present moment is to make the mistake that emptiness is the same as extinction. I'm not that kind of Zen Buddhist. If you looked up and told me you were the sky, I would stomp on your foot and ask you how the sky can feel pain, then. Sky is sky. Of course there is a self separate from the sky. Form is one of the skandhas, and your form is body. Sky form is air.

    Experience without clear mind is nothing but illusion. You see a game, exciting and meaningful as your team competes for the ultimate prize. You know their names, their history, and yell in anger when the ref makes a decision against you. By being "totally in the moment" you extinguish control along with your self.

    I see a bunch of men running back and forth on a grassy field, chasing a ball. I might know the name of the team and appreciate the skill involved, but I'm perfectly happy if either team wins. Same experience, but I am watching the situation with a clear mind.

    But all this just means we approach noself from different directions. We are both just as right, and just as wrong. To say there is no self is wrong, and to say there is self is wrong. So I have to bow and laugh. In this case, sky is black with little bright dots we call stars.

  • @cinorjer.
    I ask you to consider two things.
    1. If we are the sum total of experience as i say, then i'm not just the sky but also the sensation in the foot. As well as sound and taste etc. There's still no self separate from that.
    2. You said something about extinguishing control. I put it to you that i'm absolutely certain that control is an illusion. Consciousness has never controlled anything.
    The brain reacts via cause and effect, and consciousness is only aware of the results and related thoughts
  • It's everyone's freedom to read whatever they like, but it's a hinderance when Buddhists waste their time on stuff that's "similar to Buddhism, but isn't".

    What is this Buddhism you talk about? "Buddhism" doesn't exist. If you mean the religion...yes it does. But the vehicle Dharma is but one way to get "there".


    For all my cynicism...after reading the Power of Now....I got a much better and clearer pictures on some matters than when I read buddhist texts. Specifically the whole Not-self thing. It used to scare me. I mean I understood it intellectually for the most part. But now I understand that the labels themselves are responsible for much of my confusion.

    For me the whole thing can be boiled down to awareness. The thought that I needed to meditate 30 minutes everyday and follow the precepts etc...never helped me one bit. Practicing awareness is different than practicing Buddhism. You do practice awareness by practicing Buddhism....but I think I prefer swimming to the other shore on my own than using the raft.

    A buddhist shouldn't be committed to buddhism. He should be committed to the end of suffering.
  • CloudCloud Veteran
    @Epicurus, He's no longer with us to respond to that.
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