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sugg: sub-areas for diff. traditions
This is a very nice site, and I like it the way it is. But I just wanted to give a little feedback.
Would there be any advantage to creating some kind of subdirectory for the different traditions? Zen, Tibetan, etc? While there may not be enough members here to validate it, I would enjoy a subsection to interact with others in the Tibetan traditions.
Thank you for your consideration.
Would there be any advantage to creating some kind of subdirectory for the different traditions? Zen, Tibetan, etc? While there may not be enough members here to validate it, I would enjoy a subsection to interact with others in the Tibetan traditions.
Thank you for your consideration.
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I even had to ask Zenmonk about one of his replies...
Whether it was a general Buddhist reply (like "there is a God, a Jesus and a Holy Ghost")
or whether it was a Zen Buddhism response ("there is a God, Jesus and Holy Spirit - but they are three separate entities")
I don't know what the possibility of doing this is - but it is a wonderful suggestion.
-bf
regards,
X
On at least two other boards that tried this, we got someone(s) posting along the lines of "this is a xxxxxxxx forum and you are not xxxxxxxx so go away!"
And I've seen what Simon mentioned in action on pagan boards - not very compassionate.
That said, I understand that this forum is mainly for Westerners that practise Buddhism, so it would be nice to have a forum for European Buddhists, in addition to the one for American Buddhists.
Living in France as I do, and British in origin, I guess I would fit into the same 'bracket as you.....what do you perceive, with regard to the differentiation between Western American and Western European Buddhism, as being the distinction?
I'm just curious as to your reasoning - I'd be very interested.....
Sometimes forums need to be added, sometimes forums need to be merged. I don't know if either is the case here right now or not.
To be perfectly honest, I am completely unaware of any differences between Western American and Western European Buddhism.
I haven't counted threads and posts, life being too short, but I get the feeling that it is the USians who are in the minority here atm!
Happy now!?!!?!?!?!
-bf
This is something of a tangent but in my experience with the UK - British Buddhists (I wouldn't apply this to all European Buddhism) hold meetings to politely discuss doing something and never actually do anything. American Buddhists do stuff all the time and then sell it to someone.
No, I was just thinking that we are mainly Western non-ethnic rooted Buddhists (or sympathizers). We have all these traditions to pick from, but ideally, eventually, we will form some synthesis of all these available traditions. So interaction and learning from each other might help realize that goal.
C'mon... We are all Buddhists aren't we? Buddhism is after all different for each and everyone of us as we progress. No two of us can claim to be the same in our methods and our experiences of Buddhism, not even HHDL and his closest Lamas! Right now we have great fun like this. Why not we keep the status quo?
I like the point you made about HH the Dalai Lama and his Lamas.
And I agree wholeheartedly!
Love
Brigid
You are indeed very wise in your response. Personally I would embrace Buddhism if it wasn't call buddhism. In fact if it decided to denounce itself as a religion that would make closer to the cause.
However, we are where we are and I have to admit I am personally more interested in Theravada Buddhism and find most punters that use this site have an interest in Tibet Buddhism. Still I take what I am given and appreciate that their many people on here that I can learn from and are in fact very patient and are happy to give advise.
I my humble opinion Buddhist has to go through what the labour party did in the 80's and 90's (without achieving Blairism) You have to drop clause 4. That was the turning point.
Thing is what is Buddhism's clause 4 and would they be prepared to go through the pain to achieve a greater goal.
At the moment probably not.
HH
High five.
Brigid
Clearly my friend that is not the case. As you are well aware there are many labels in Buddhism such Theravada and the Mahayana. That might be a hoop that needs jumping through.
What they do is incorrectly celebrate the differences between a belief system that in my opinion should have no divide.
HH
And that's exactly your point isn't it? ZM has given you the clause 4 but as you've stated, it's one thing to have a clause, but another to act on it....
Did any of that make sense..?
HH
Man, Woman, are labels...that is not to say that one is better than the other - they are different. And I too get annoyed when the differences are utilised as denoting Superiority, when in fact the differences should be celebrated and not condemned....
there are many things men can do that women can't and vice versa. For me that's a good thing....
Ten bottles of red wine without a single label would mean knowing nothing about the content. You'd have to try each one, before saying which you preferred, but you'd be none the wiser about provenance, year, vintage, quality......
Sometimes labels are necessary. But only as an indication, not as a concrete identity.
It's when we decide that our label defines us that we are prone to prejudice, judgement and criticism.....
Sure!
I think it's healthy to question things. Questioning has led to many new discoveries.
But there also comes a time - when all the facts have been presented - all debates and rebuttals have been stated that one has to come to a decision or conclusion.
I'm sure you'll come to whatever label or name you can accept when the time is right.
-bf
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Album: Cosmic Wheels - 1973
I was impressed like everyone,
When man began to fly,
Out of earthly regions,
To planets in the sky.
With total media coverage,
We watched the heros land,
As ceremoniously
They disturbed the cosmic sand.
In awe with admiration,
We listened to the talk.
Such pride felt they,
Such joy to be
Upon the moon to walk.
My romantic vision shattered,
When it was explained to me,
Spacemen wear old diapers
In which they shit and pee.
Oh, the intergalactic laxative,
Will get you from here to there.
Relieve you and believe me,
Without a worry or care.
If shitting is your problem,
When you're out there in the stars,
Oh, the intergalactic laxative
Will get you from here to Mars.
They don't partake like you and I,
Of beefy burger mush.
Their food is specially prepared
To dissolve into slush.
Absorbed by multi-fibers
In the super diaper suit,
Otherwise the slush would trickle
Down inside the boot.
Oh, the intergalactic laxative,
Will get you from here to there.
Relieve you and believe me,
Without a worry or care.
If shitting is your problem
When you're out there in the stars,
Oh, the intergalactic laxative
Will get you from here to Mars.
You may well ask now what becomes
Of liquid they consume.
A pipe is led from penis head
To a unit in the room.
The water is recirculated,
Filtered for re-use.
In case of anti-gravity -
Pee gets on the loose.
Oh, the intergalactic laxative,
Will get you from here to there.
Relieve you and believe me,
Without a worry or care.
If shitting is your problem
When you're out there in the stars,
Oh, the intergalactic laxative
Will get you from here to Mars.
Wherever man has conquered,
On the quest for frontiers new,
(Da da da da)
I'm glad that he's always had to do
The number one and two.
It makes it all so ordinary,
Just like you and me,
To know the greatest heroes,
They had to shit and pee.
The intergalactic laxative
Will get you from here to there,
For cosmic constipation
There's none that can compare.
If shitting is your problem
When you're out there in the stars,
Oh, the intergalactic laxative,
The intergalactic laxative,
The intergalactic laxative,
Will get you from here to Mars.
-bf
With the money from her accident
She bought herself a mobile home
So at least she could get some enjoyment
Out of being alone
No one could say that she was left up on the shelf
It's you and me against the World kid she mumbled to herself
CHORUS:
When the world falls apart some things stay in place
Levi Stubbs' tears run down his face
She ran away from home with her mother's best coat
She was married before she was even entitled to vote
And her husband was one of those blokes
The sort that only laughs at his own jokes
The sort that war takes away
And when there wasn't a war he left her anyway
Norman Whitfield and Barratt Strong
Are here to make everything right that's wrong
Holland and Holland and Lamont Dozier too
Are here to make it all okay with you
One dark night he came home from the sea
And put a hole in her body where no hole should be
It hurt her more to see him walking out the door
And though they stitched her back together they left her heart in pieces on the
floor
When the world falls apart some things stay in place
She takes off the Four Tops tape and puts it back in its case
When the world falls apart some things stay in place
Levi Stubbs' tears...
White Album
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
No one will be watching us
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
No one will be watching us
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
No one will be watching us
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
People will be watching us
Why don't we do it in the road
Why don't we do it in the road
Hey do you think we could have done that better
-HH
a police car and a screaming siren
pneumatic drill and ripped up concrete
a baby wailing and a stray dog howling
the screech of brakes and lamplights blinking
thats entertainment
a smash of glass and the rumble of boots
an electric train and a ripped up phone booth
paint splattered walls and the cry of a tom cat
lights going out and a kick in the balls
thats entertainment
days of speed and slow time mondays
pissing down with rain on a boring wednesday
watching the news and not eating your tea
a freezing cold flat with damp on the walls
thats entertainment
waking up at 6 a.m on a cool warm morning
opening the window and breathing in petrol
an amateur band rehearsing in a nearby yard
watching the telly and thinking 'bout your holidays
thats entertainment
waking up from bad dreams and smoking cigarettes
cuddling a warm girl and smelling stale perfume
a hot summers day and sticky black tarmac
feeding ducks in the park and wishing you were far away
thats entertainment
two lovers kissing at the scream of midnight
two lovers missing the tranquility of solitude
getting a cab and travelling on buses
reading the grafitti about slashed seat affairs
thats entertainment
Jane's Addiction (one of the best band, I might add!)
Song: Ted, Just Admit It
Album: Nothing's Shocking
Camera got them images
Camera got them all
Nothing's shocking...
Showed me everybody
Naked and disfigured
Nothing's shocking...
And then he came
Now sister's
Not a virgin anymore
Her sex is violent...
The T.V.'s got them images
T.V.'s got them all
It's not shocking!
Every half an hour
Someone's captured and
The cop moves them along...
It's just like the show before
The news is
Just another show
With sex and violence...
Sex is violent...
Sex is violent...
Sex is violent...
Sex is violent...
Sex is violent...
Sex is violent...
Sex is violent!
I am the killer of people
You look like a meatball
I'll throw away your toothpick
And ask for your giveness
Because of this thing!
Because of this thing!
Because of this thing!
That's in me
Is it not in you?
Is it not your problem?
A baby to a mother...
You talk too much
To your scapegoat
That's what I say
He tells you everyone is stupid
That's what he thinks!
Snapshots
Make a girl look cheap
Like a tongue extended
A baby's to a mother
Sex is violent!
Sex is violent!
Sex is violent!
Sex is violent!
-bf
BIG FAN!
I've seen him on three occasions here in Australia, but the last time he got a little outside his scope of concern-I think, he was discussing Australian politics with the audience, by stating that our primeminister was doing the same as Margaret Thatcher did to England! well at that point he lost me, firstly he was nothing like thatcher and secondly he did NOTHING at all like her-perhaps he should have?! anyway, Billy, leave the politics of your country with your own people-it just doesn't relate to what goes on here in Australia-mate.
Still, I'm still his biggest fan-St Swithins day is the best song he's written-In my opinion.
regards,
XRAY
P.S. St. Swithin's Day Lyrics below.
Thinking back now,
I suppose you were just stating your views
What was it all for
For the weather or the battle of agincourt
And the times that we all hoped would last
Like a train they have gone by so fast
And though we stood together
At the edge of the platform
We were not moved by them
With my own hands
When i make love to your memory
It's not the same
I miss the thunder
I miss the rain
And the fact that you don't understand
Casts a shadow over this land
But the sun still shines from behind it.
Thanks all the same
But i just can't bring myself to answer your letters
It's not your fault
But your honesty touches me like a fire
The polaroids that hold us together
Will surely fade away
Like the love that we spoke of forever
On st swithin's day
But if I had to choose one album for a deserted island it would have to be "Ritual de lo Habitual". One of the greatest albums ever recorded and not a week goes by when I don't think of "Ain't no right, Ain't no wrong". Don't remember if that's even the title of the song but I love it because it keeps my mind limber. (Don't even know if I have the title of the album right.)
Brigid
Brigid