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Abraham Hicks - Do Desires Cause Suffering?

DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
edited November 2011 in Buddhism Basics

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  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    Many many highly acclaimed monks and nuns have stated that desire will always result in some form of suffering in the end, be it minute or vast. Desire = clingin, clinging to something impermanent will induce suffing, my opinion anyway
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Many many highly acclaimed monks and nuns have stated that desire will always result in some form of suffering in the end, be it minute or vast. Desire = clingin, clinging to something impermanent will induce suffing, my opinion anyway
    Thank you!
  • EpicurusEpicurus
    edited November 2011
    Many many highly acclaimed monks and nuns have stated that desire will always result in some form of suffering in the end, be it minute or vast. Desire = clingin, clinging to something impermanent will induce suffing, my opinion anyway
    How wil clinging in this particular way inducer suffering? And on whom exactly?
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Clinging implies an intense, acute form of desire.
    Some 'Desire' (like, as has been said before, the desire to follow the dhamma) is healthy, although this too can lead to clinging, if the desire becomes obsessive.

    When desire becomes clinging, it has a tendency to be consuming and obsessive. If it is obsessive, it becomes the focus, at the possible cost and sacrifice of other equally or more pressing matters, and neglect sets in.

    Others suffer through neglect and ignorance....


  • EpicurusEpicurus
    Well then this form of clinging of desire needn't be any more dangerous than any other.

    As ever, unwise people will use knowledge in unwise ways.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Well then this form of clinging of desire needn't be any more dangerous than any other.

    What 'any other forms' were you thinking of?

  • EpicurusEpicurus
    Every known one. I mean clinging in general. Basically what I was implying was that clinging to the Law of Attraction isn't much more of a problem than any other form of clinging. Or is it? And if so, why exactly?


    This is what I would like to ask the monks ThailandTom speaks of. Is the law of attraction a particularly dangerous form of desire with TERRIBLE karmic consequence? And for whom is it problematic?
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    edited November 2011
    I desire to stay alive, I desire to eat, I desire to sleep, I desire to have sex, I desire to paint and draw and I desire that my family healthy and well. Sometimes I desire to read a book, watch a movie, listen to music or post here.
    I don't believe this is the problem.
    This becomes a problem when we ignore two of the three marks of existence;
    We identify self with these things and or believe that they are or should be permenant. From this we get the third mark; suffering.
    Remember the three marks of existence, and it is not an issue.
    All the best,
    Todd
  • GuiGui Veteran
    It is my opinion that desire is suffering in that desire is a wish for things to be different than the way they are right now.
  • GuiGui Veteran
    I meant to say - desire is a wish for things to be different from the way they are right now. - regardless, I see all desire as suffering.
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