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Mental Static

DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
edited February 2012 in Buddhism Basics
So after a bit of meditation today I was thinking about some things I read. Don't look to the past and don't look to the future. And I had this thought maybe all that keeps arising in my mind is an illusion just mental static. Part of me is how can i say this.. wanting to unplug I guess... idk

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  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    What are the implications if your mind is just static and an illusion? Some philosophers thought of this idea.

    Are you suffering in some way that unplugging might help? If a TV is broken a TV repairman can help.

    Buddhism is about relieving suffering is why I asked if you were suffering somehow.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    Hmmm good question.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited February 2012
    I think I may have missed that you might not be suffering you may just be interested in illusory nature of experience. That is definitely something to explore.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    Yes. Im not really suffering but exactly just tring to understand that illusion I read about alot.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    I kinda see in the sense all form is not really form but perpetual energy always transforming.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    In my meditation I interpret what arises as thoughts or stories. So it's kinda sometimes static and sometimes a storyline. The thoughts can have a certain quality about them, what I feel about them. Sometimes body feelings.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    What your saying makes sense. I was mindfull of my stomache today tightening and looking at my mind grasping. And tring to just let go. Think I understand that. In away realized my breathing is not true.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited February 2012
    So you were trying to let go and then you had an idea that the breath was not true? That's interesting. I usually think of ideas as maybe not totally true. When you say 'the breath' what kind of associations are you making? Physical? Or as an idea in Buddhism and spirituality?
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    Non Buddhist related but you might enjoy Plato's republic or Socratic philosophy...make sites it's annotated...the Greeks loved to break things down into states of "nothing "...
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    Typo...make sure..
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    When I feel lost in thought then come back.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    Non Buddhist related but you might enjoy Plato's republic or Socratic philosophy...make sites it's annotated...the Greeks loved to break things down into states of "nothing "...
    Not sure what you meen bout states of nothing.

  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    I kinda see in the sense all form is not really form but perpetual energy always transforming.
    Everything...you, the chair, me, Jeffrey, your thoughts, your past, your bones and flesh, could be broken down to atoms and space that are making the form that you see, which is the chair, the computer, your body...etc. thoughts and emotions are little energies...they have a fleetingness to them (is that a word) ...much like a dream. In fact everything that forms your reality could be questioned whether it trully exists and or you are merely asleep and Jeffrey and I are part of your dream.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    I believe im everything from my past. But not my future
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    Is there anything...please think.

    Is there anything you can not doubt?

    Can you point at nothing?
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    I wanna believe im an evil full of all this hatred and anger thats poured out all these years but i cant!
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    You are not your past, although we honor the past because it has contributed to you and what you are NOW.

    I think of tolle. He said that if you think about it, there has never been a moment you have not been in the PRESENT.. when you think of the past now, you are in the PRESENT thinking about the past. The future does not exist...when December 21, 2012 rolls around and you are still alive, you will be in the PRESENT.

    when you die, you will be in the present. You are always in the PRESENT.

    when you think of past, now. It is colored with hindsight...when you think or worry about future, the mind uses past data to color what it thinks the future will be.

    Hence you become a bridge for past and future.

    Cultivating presence through mindfulness meditation and awareness...keeps you grounded in the here and now.
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    Lets pretend you are all those hateful things you just said. I've said worse about myself...and they were true!

    What are you going to do about it?
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    There is no future darling...your salvation and your CHOICE to draw a line in the sand and say "no more, I will make a step to change " will be done in the present.

    No one can save you, but yourself. No one can change you, but you. No one will love you like you do.

    If you don't do it now, then when?
    if not here, then where?
    If not you, then who?

    Now. Here. You. Choose to love yourself...don't take any more pleasure in punishing yourself.
  • weightedweighted Veteran
    Now. Here. You. Choose to love yourself...don't take any more pleasure in punishing yourself.
    Agree with this. I also think what @Jeffrey said is wise: identifying the story lines and doing away with them helps.
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    If you don't find a way out, no one will. We can point the way but you are tonnage have to do this sojourn. When you get to a better place you will be emotionally, spiritualy, mentally stronger and you can turn around and use your experience to help others!

    That's great! Don't you think?
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    Going to ...typo
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    Idk my daughter just jumped outa bed and gave me a hug hug on my leg...
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    But my past strengthens me my resolve to find a better path for me my daughter and my family.
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    Then you are doing well...and you are very lucky to have a daughter who loves you so much. I have been married 12 years and there was a time I wanted a daughter so bad, but we are childless. I have come to peace with it...but family is so important. Love is the biggest motivator.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    Im sorry, Yes it can move any obstacle. Pain sufffering hatred lack of unwillingness. guilt pain nothing stands before it.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    Now I wanna harness that.
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    If that makes sense ..
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    I think so, yes. I feel the same way about awareness. :)
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    I think love is great what stands between me and the joe on the corner now.
  • Lady_AlisonLady_Alison Veteran
    Goodnight, darling. I hope your meditation goes well. Harness love!
  • DenkatsuDenkatsu Veteran
    My heart does not lie. The only one I can count on now. Goodnight, Lady of love.
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