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Is the physical plane a projection of the spirit?

edited February 2012 in General Banter
Is the physical plane a projection of the spirit?

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  • @AstralProjectee hey, sorry but your question is a bit vague to me. Also, what do you mean by spirit? In buddhism there is no spirit in the sense of a soul or something of that nature. Can you elaborate a little?
  • edited February 2012
    Meaning, does the spirit or consciousness create the psychical world?

    Peace!
  • Meaning create the psychical world by projecting it from it self.

    Peace!
  • edited February 2012
    Just like you create a projection of your reality in the astral, but a little different.

    Peace!
  • Spirit and consciousness are two different things in buddhism, one exists and one does not. There is no such thing as a soul or spirit, but of course there is a consciousness that is commonly known as the 6th sense door.

    The world, universe everything exist, but we perceive it with our senses, sight, smell, sound etc and we create an illusion of what we think is reality in our minds. Reality exists, but just not in the way we think it does. Here is a link for you to take a look at if you so wish. It is not buddhist but it illustrates the point to some extent.

  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited February 2012
    Meaning, does the spirit or consciousness create the psychical world? Peace!
    A few notes, since you're new here. 1. If you need to edit, click onto the little gear icon at top right of your post. You have 6 minutes to edit. That's preferable to making a series of little posts. 2. Choose the category in which you want to post. This topic doesn't pertain to Buddhism for Beginners, it would go in "General Banter". So you click onto the category you want, then you click onto "Start a New Discussion", after you've chosen a category.

    So about your topic: you ask if the "spirit" or consciousness (?) created the physical world. Then in two "explanatory" posts, you say "psychical" world. Were those typos, or some other aspect of the same question, or are you changing the original question?

    I've always been intrigued by your username, A-P. So now we get to find out what it's all about. May I ask how you know we create a projection of our reality on the astral plane?

    Do you mean to ask: Does mind (consciousness) create reality? To an extent, I think it does.

  • 18 dhatus:

    6 senses, 6 sense object, 6 consciousness.

    each sense needs an object (cause) = consciousness (effect for that particular sense).

    what we consider "physical" is just the mind senses linking of the other five senses.

    we connect what we feel with what we see. and etc, thus this whole experience of "physicality."

    we cannot say the mind is the cause, nor effect. because it is both the cause and effect.

    everything arises interdependently.

    if the mind projects everything. then we could ask what is projecting the mind?
  • Meaning, does the spirit or consciousness create the psychical world?

    Peace!
    There is said to be a mutual dependence of form and consciousness, but I don't think that's what you're describing.

    Spiny
  • Is the physical plane a projection of the spirit?
    I like to keep things simple. People die unexpectedly all the time. I'm sure you have injured yourself accidentally, unexpectedly. This happens because this physical plane exists on its own, therefore you don't always have control. The physical plane has been here before us, it is not our own illusion. It is all real, after we die it will still be here.

    I've heard spiritual guru's say stuff like;
    "This life is all an illusion. It's not real."
    When you bleed it is real. Thinking otherwise is delusional.
  • Is the physical plane a projection of the spirit?


    Astral...here is Buddhism 101. I'm confident most people here from various Buddhist traditions can agree that this is basic Buddhism... It is from the early Pali Suttas.....


    A HANDFUL OF LEAVES

    The Blessed One was once living at Kosambi in a wood of simsapa trees. He picked up a few leaves in his hand, and he asked the bhikkhus, ‘How do you conceive this, bhikkhus, which is more, the few leaves that I have picked up in my hand or those on the trees in the wood?

    ‘The leaves that the Blessed One has picked up in his hand are few, Lord; those in the wood are far more.’

    ‘So too, bhikkhus, the things that I have known by direct knowledge are more; the things that I have told you are only a few. Why have I not told them? Because they bring no benefit, no advancement in the Holy Life, and because they do not lead to dispassion, to fading, to ceasing, to stilling, to direct knowledge, to enlightenment, to Nibbana. That is why I have not told them. And what have I told you? This is suffering; this is the origin of suffering; this is the cessation of suffering; this is the way leading to the cessation of suffering. That is what I have told you. Why have I told it? Because it brings benefit, and advancement in the Holy Life, and because it leads to dispassion, to fading, to ceasing, to stilling, to direct knowledge, to enlightenment, to Nibbana. So bhikkhus, let your task be this: This is suffering; this is the origin of suffering; this is the cessation of suffering; this is the way leading to the cessation of suffering.’

    [Samyutta Nikaya, LVI, 31]


    ....as you can see, it has nothing to do with astral projecting, planes projected or otherwise, projecting spirit, or anything else found at the new-age salad bar.

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Ditto that.
  • edited February 2012
    if the mind projects everything. then we could ask what is projecting the mind?
    It all starts from the original source of spirit. From that the universe is created.
    May I ask how you know we create a projection of our reality on the astral plane?
    I don't know that but I have heard that from all avid astral projectors. I am not sure of the mechanism of action but that is the general censuses with astral projectors.

    Peace!


  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Please study Buddhism a little more closely.
    you will discover that what you're talking about, doesn't even figure.
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