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Snoring partners!

edited March 2012 in General Banter
Like most evenings, I'm on my laptop while my partner is sleeping. She has to get up at the crack of dawn and I don't need to get up until later. Unfortunately, she snores and tonight it is really bad. I worry sometimes that she has sleep apnoea but actually she's just very, very loud.

I have tried prodding, pinching her nose to make her open her mouth, gently nudging... and then more aggressive shoving and finally shouting. The thing is, the noise makes me nuts! I don't want to sleep on the couch, but that is what I'm going to have to do if she doesn't shut up.

What I find most hard to do is deal with the absolute fury it seems to evoke in me, even though I know its not on purpose and she can't help it. Only maybe she can - she's been out drinking with friends, and alcohol always makes her much worse.

Apparently, I too sometimes snore, but somehow that doesn't make me feel any better.

Comments

  • Did you try flipping her over?

    Stuffing a sock down her throat?

    Noise cancelling ear phones from brook brothers?
  • Apparently, I have that problem, too. I've been so congested all week with an upper respiratory infection/cold and I (allegedly) make dump truck noises with my nose. I also (allegedly) thrash and moan and sometimes scream..
    .. I think they lying because I feel that I would wake up if this is all (allegedly) happening.
  • BonsaiDougBonsaiDoug Simply, on the path. Veteran
    she snores and tonight it is really bad. I worry sometimes that she has sleep apnoea but actually she's just very, very loud.
    I'm in the same boat as you. My wife is a snorer of biblical proportion. And I too worry about apnea. To date we've found no real solution. Other than my getting up and sleeping downstairs on the couch.
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited March 2012
    There are adhesive strips you can get at the pharmacy that you put on the bridge of your nose, like little band-aids, that help alleviate apnea and snoring in some people.

    @BonasaiDoug and @Ada_B, do your partners feel rested after sleep? Are they able to get through the day without becoming fatigued or losing concentration (narcolepsy)? No mood issues? If they're having symptoms, they should see a sleep clinic for sure. The problem is, you may hate the solution more than the problem. What sleep clinics advise these days is to use a C-PAP machine, which I liken to a medieval torture device. It's a motorized device with a mask at one end to put over the patient's nose and mouth, and it forces air down their throat all night, to keep the airway clear. Believe it or not, some people swear by this thing, and feel it's a life-saver. I have no idea how the significant other manages with this thing in the room all night.

    haha! @Lady_Alison That's funny--you're a drama queen in your sleep!
  • Also, a deviated septum may cause snoring and surgery may alleviate it.
  • BonsaiDougBonsaiDoug Simply, on the path. Veteran
    Dakini - my wife sleeps pretty much through 8 hours a night and cheerfully goes through the day 'till midnight.
  • @bonsaidoug ... then you are the only one with the problem, my friend. (Hands a pair of thick noise cancelling head phones)
  • @dakini...I dream ALOT! my dreams are very active..but, while my husband does not snore, he does get up suddenly and starts to shake the sheets and smooth out the bedspread like he is trying to get dust off it. He use to do this alot until one day I said (unknowingly) "what the hell are you doing? "

    Then I realized he was sleep walking. "There are snakes! ", he said.

    For years he would brush or look for snakes or spiders on the bed. I just made sure the door was locked in the room so he wouldn't get out. Mostly, I would watch him do it with wild, evil amusement and then say gently, "I got all the spiders/snakes today, go to sleep." That seemed to help...man, I hope he never reads this.
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    Wow! you two are weird, Alison! A good match, though, I guess--you scream, and he chases snakes.

    Sleep is a bizarre thing, isn't it?
  • I have sleep apnea. Got a CPAP 7 years ago and life if really good, both for me and my wife.
  • let the pigs deal with it :p this is of course a joke response.



    My partner does not snore, but my mate who use to stay with did. If he did I use to roll him over or lightly smack his face with a pillow which worked, but I guess everyone is different.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Sleep deprivation is still used today as a form of torture and mind control, so going without sleep is more damaging than you would think.
    you become irritable, listless, resentful and finally, positively venomous...

    if your partners are overweight, it's possible they have excess pink mucous membrane in their throats.
    They may have to go through a sleep trial, and of course the following is not done lightly but it's possible they may be eligible for an operation called a UPPP.
    To give it its full title, its a Uvulo~Palato~Pharyngo~Plasty.
    Basically, they cut away all the excess mucous memberane at the back of the throat, but it means also losing the pink little dangly bit at the back (the uvula - so called because it looks like a grape [uva] hanging off a stalk).
    the downside is, that if the patient does not make concerted efforts to maintain a eight loss - the membrane is apt to grow back, with weight gain....
    My ex husband had this procedure, and it worked well, but due to a sedentary lifestyle - that and his obvious enthusiastic love of food and equally enthusiastic aversion to any form of exercise - meant that within 2 years, he was back to his 'old self' again...

    My current husband ( :p) also snores like a blocked drain, and has the equally infuriating habit of sleeping like somebody wrestling a rampant rhino....
    I wear earplugs, occasionally when appropriate take a sleeping tablet, and on some drastic occasions, will sleep in the spare room.
    When I reach the positively murderous levels - I'll let you all know.
    You can all talk me off the ceiling with soothing sutta references......
  • My partner doesn't think her snoring is a massive problem. She just thinks I'm mean! I think maybe she has one of those problems with loose tissue at the back of the throat - normally she's fine if she's on her side, but she keeps rolling on to her back. To get her back on her side means that no matter how gently I try to encourage her, she snaps and snarls at me (in her sleep).

    But the problem last night was that she'd been drinking and then she's always awful. She can't take her drink - doesn't do it very often (thankfully) but when she does, the problem is she works in a male-dominated company and can't keep up with the guys.

    Of course, that means my thoughts are not so much "Aw, she can't help it" as "Why the *%$£@! did she drink alcohol in the middle of the week so that I don't get any sleep! Grrrrr!".

    Her doctor is pretty sure it's not sleep apneoa. She is not particularly overweight, doesn't smoke, normally doesn't drink much and doesn't get allergies. Maybe she does have deviated septum, but not so anyone has ever noticed. She gets up really early for work and doesn't seem to have any problems with energy levels. It's just me that's exhausted!
  • IñigoIñigo Explorer
    edited March 2012
    Hi
    I changed my pillow this week and my snoring stopped (I have been snoring for months/years I even woke myself up on occasions). The pillow is a hard foam pillow and lifts my chin from my chest. My wife is sleeping the full night now.I mention this in case it helps. I agree with the points above, avoid alcohol, heavy dinners and being overweight.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Try recording her on 'sober' nights AND ones when she's had a drink....
    then play them to her.
    if she says the volume is too loud, tell her the volume isn't the factor - the main problem is - that she snores, and it keeps you awake!!!!
  • IñigoIñigo Explorer
    edited March 2012
    That's a good idea Federica.
    My wife used to put her hand on my back or ask me to roll over. That can be enough because it also disturbed my quality of sleep and improved her's a little more. I recommend it in a loving way, because it brings awareness to snoring and your partner will remember that her actions affect you from first hand experience i.e. recollecting those moments during the night then next day is a good way to bring awareness and reduce frustration. :)
  • Invincible_summerInvincible_summer Heavy Metal Dhamma We(s)t coast, Canada Veteran
    There are adhesive strips you can get at the pharmacy that you put on the bridge of your nose, like little band-aids, that help alleviate apnea and snoring in some people.
    I've heard that for the most part, those are a waste of money. They didn't work for me anyway, and are pretty expensive.


    I snore a lot, but I found that sleeping on my side rather than on my back helped reduce the amount of snoring.

  • ZeroZero Veteran
    Sew tennis ball to the back of pyjamas - right into the spine or better still near the kidneys - they will automatically roll onto their side or front - encourage with lighter pillows.

    You can also try the nasal strips that open up airways.

    Alternatively, you can tire yourself out with exercise and perhaps you'll sleep through it - snoring isnt a huge issue if you sleep through it... maybe ear plugs?
  • I usually just ask my partner to turn over on to his side and he does. I am very lucky though because if I can get to sleep before him, absolutely nothing disturbs me. ;) It's that lying in bed listening to someone snore that's the killer.
  • ToshTosh Veteran
    Snoring doesn't have to be annoying! Serious. I've slept with many many men over the years (sounds bad huh?) - but I was in the army for a long time, and often I've shared rooms with 18 to 15 other soldiers (maybe more). In Northern Ireland I spent six months living with 18 soldiers in a tiny room, sleeping in three tier bunk beds.

    Sometimes I would wake up and more often than not, someone was snoring their head off. I found the noise peaceful, comforting almost.

    It drives Mrs Tosh up the wall though.
  • makes me think of this:

  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited March 2012
    I have sleep apnea. Got a CPAP 7 years ago and life if really good, both for me and my wife.
    I tried a CPAP, and was ready to shoot it when I returned it to the lab. You're one lucky lama. ;)

    if your partners are overweight, it's possible they have excess pink mucous membrane in their throats.
    I lost a lot of weight, but it didn't change the apnea. It's the uvula that collapses at onset of sleep, and blocks the air passages, that's my observation. I can sometimes hear myself snore.

    I wonder if snoring is hereditary, because my dad snored insufferably, according to my mom.

  • edited March 2012
    Yeah, I didn't think there was any way possible I was going to be able to sleep with that thing on my face, but I kept trying and after finally using it a whole night I realized that I had the best night of sleep that I had had in several years. Wouldn't be without it. My wife loves it, not only because I don't snore, but I don't thrash around in bed any more either.
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