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One more 9/11 life saved
Simonthepilgrim
Veteran
My morning celebration today has been one of thanksgiving that sanity has prevailed and the state will not be adding yet another avoidable death to the Twin Towers hecatomb.
"He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me" the hatred of those who do not harbour such thoughts is appeased."
The Dhammapada
"He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me" the hatred of those who do not harbour such thoughts is appeased."
The Dhammapada
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It is also possible that the Jury sought to deprive him of his wish to become a 'Martyr' for Islam... And there are many who believe that Life Imprisonment will be a far worse deal than a quick execution....
I know from personal exprience that it is well worth adding a word of caution at this point:
The Media is also fairly manipulative in what and how it transmits news...Whilst we would all like to believe that news editors and studio bosses want 'the good, hard, honest facts and nothing else' to go out - sadly, that is often far off the mark. No news is good news... sensationalism sells, and we are fed vast amounts of eye-popping stuff every day, that makes us sit up and take notice - but we must understand that amazing as it may all sound, not all of it is Fact.
There is also the question of what information is released, and when....
There is much furore in the UK about the Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, having inadvertently released thousands of criminals, destined for deportation, back into the community, to offend again. Some of these people are hardened criminals and dangerous men. And some of them have indeed, offended again.
This all came to light about a week or two ago.
It actually all happened over a year ago.....
So even if I see reports with people actually interviewed, or giving speeches,and being directly quoted, I still say to myself -
"I don't know all the facts".
And that's the way it will always be.
I too am with you in rejoicing at a life saved, no matter who the individual. John Donne put it better than I could:
"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee".
Martin.
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No, Magwang. That is like the boy in school who, holding onto a pigtail, claims that he is not pulling the other person's hair, "only holding it".
Prior to invasion, the deaths in those two suffering regions were down to the Taliban and the Ba'ath Party. Since the bombings and the invasions, it is the Coalition who are now responsible.
Indeed you are right, Magwang. And it is in the understanding of history that we begin to see the long roots of any conflict:
For example:
* In the North of Ireland, the 1688 Battle of the Boyne is still celebrated, despite being about sectarianism that carried on reaping death up to our own day. But we cannot stop there; we also have to remember Cromwell's actions at Drogheda and Essex's massacres for Elizabeth I. Long roots.
* 9/11 and 7/7 are, themselves, results. Results, perhaps, of the stationing of non-Muslim soldiers on the holy ground of Saudi. Results of the Sykes-Picot Accord of 1916. Results of gratuitous invasion by Frankish knights a thousand years ago.
As we understand and identify the roots, we can find solutions and common ground. The study of history, when well taught, leads to tolerance and understanding, as well as a sense of our own flawed inheritance. Not surprising that totalitarian and imperialist regimes attempt to contain, direct and emasculate its teaching in our schools.