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from lesser virtue to greater virtue

edited May 2012 in Buddhism Basics
I found an interesting Pali reference (Kevatta (Kevaddha) Sutta) where Buddha talks about precepts, among other things.

Among the Sutta, two passages hit me quite hard:
"Whereas some brahmans and contemplatives, living off food given in faith, are addicted to debates such as these — 'You understand this doctrine and discipline? I'm the one who understands this doctrine and discipline. How could you understand this doctrine and discipline? You're practicing wrongly. I'm practicing rightly. I'm being consistent. You're not. What should be said first you said last. What should be said last you said first. What you took so long to think out has been refuted. Your doctrine has been overthrown. You're defeated. Go and try to salvage your doctrine; extricate yourself if you can!' — he abstains from debates such as these. This, too, is part of his virtue.
"With his mind thus concentrated, purified, and bright, unblemished, free from defects, pliant, malleable, steady, and attained to imperturbability, he directs and inclines it to knowledge of the recollection of past lives (lit: previous homes). He recollects his manifold past lives, i.e., one birth, two births, three births, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, one hundred, one thousand, one hundred thousand, many aeons of cosmic contraction, many aeons of cosmic expansion, many aeons of cosmic contraction and expansion, [recollecting], 'There I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I re-arose there. There too I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I re-arose here.' Thus he recollects his manifold past lives in their modes and details. Just as if a man were to go from his home village to another village, and then from that village to yet another village, and then from that village back to his home village. The thought would occur to him, 'I went from my home village to that village over there. There I stood in such a way, sat in such a way, talked in such a way, and remained silent in such a way. From that village I went to that village over there, and there I stood in such a way, sat in such a way, talked in such a way, and remained silent in such a way. From that village I came back home.' In the same way — with his mind thus concentrated, purified, and bright, unblemished, free from defects, pliant, malleable, steady, and attained to imperturbability — the monk directs and inclines it to knowledge of the recollection of past lives. He recollects his manifold past lives... in their modes and details."
After reading them, I feel really ashamed, then I thought:

"On the turbulent sea of samsara, I found refuge, I stayed, and I idled. I could idle here for aeons."

It feels dreadful.

The precepts are not some dogmatic rules, but rather guide lines to help me with "clearing the dusts" from eyes.

Comments

  • TalismanTalisman Veteran
    I try to remember this sutta a lot especially when discussing things here. Thanks for bringing it up.
  • SimplifySimplify Veteran
    I don't understand the second one, could explain it for me?
  • I don't understand the second one, could explain it for me?
    sorry, but I do not dare to explain Buddha's teaching. :(
  • tmottestmottes Veteran
    edited May 2012
    I don't understand the second one, could explain it for me?
    When I have practiced meditation enough to use "... [my] mind thus concentrated, purified, and bright, unblemished, free from defects, pliant, malleable, steady, and attained to imperturbability", then I will gladly explain that one to you.
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