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Real Info on Tobacco

edited May 2012 in General Banter
www.dudjom-on-smoking.org
The link intitled Tobacco gives you the direct prophesies by Guru Rinpoche/Padmasambava who brought Buddhism into Tibet about Tobacco and how it was told before it came into existence. The devil won't get you by giving you something you don't like. If you smoke you'll smile alot but loose all virtue and love and not make it to heaven.

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  • DharmakaraDharmakara Veteran
    edited May 2012
    It's funny that the Buddha didn't mention this, not to mention the fact that the vinaya even permits it. Of course this doesn't mean it's a healthy choice, but please leave virtue out of your little rage fest against smoking.

    from A Guide to Buddhism A-Z:

    Smoking is the habit of inhaling the smoke of smouldering tobacco leaves either by means of cigarettes or pipes. Tobacco was unknown in ancient India but people did inhale smoke for medical and recreational purposes. According to the Suśruta Cikitsā, an ancient treatise on medicine, inhaling smoke is good as a purgative, a cure for tiredness, depression, throat and nose problems and is also beneficial for pregnant women. Certain herbs were burned and the smoke sniffed in through a small metal tube (dhūmanetti). The Buddha subscribed to this kind of smoke therapy and allowed monks and nuns to have smoking tubes (Vin.I,204), although some people apparently considered them to be a luxury (Ja.IV,363).

    Cigarettes (dhūmavaṭṭi) smoked for enjoyment were made by grinding cardamom, saffron, sandalwood and aloe wood into a fine paste and moulding it over a reed so that it was about 15 centimetres long and with the thickness of a thumb. When the paste was dry, the reed was removed and the resulting cigarette was smeared with clarified butter or sandalwood oil before being ignited. These cigarettes were probably far less harmful than the modern ones. Another ancient medical work, the Caraka Saṃhitā, recommends sitting in an upright but comfortable posture while smoking, taking three puffs at a time and inhaling through both the mouth and nostrils but exhaling only through nostrils.

    While smoking has a very negative effect on the body, it has little or no effect on consciousness and thus, from the Buddhist perspective, has no moral significance. A person can be kind, generous and honest and yet smoke. Thus, although smoking is inadvisable from the point of view of physical health it is not contrary to the fifth Precept.

    Smoking is very common in all Buddhists lands although in 2005 Bhutan was the first country in the world to ban it. In Burma, Thailand and Cambodia monks commonly smoke, but in Sri Lanka it is considered unacceptable for them to do so, although it is often done in private. However, Sri Lankan monks are allowed to chew tobacco.

  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran
    Although, as a stimulant, I think it fits under the Precept.
  • Again, this is a more recent development, the way it's viewed, ect.
  • Make it to heaven??

    Have you got the right religion here? ...
  • Tushita Heaven id the Buddha field of Amitaba often called dewachen. Don't be too concerned about trying to differentiate between differnt "religions" Did you know that Jesus was a incarnation/emanation of the Lord Of Compassion Chenrezig. The Buddhas and Bohdisattvas and other high beings just want you to be a good person. The Potala is the heavenly realm of Chenrezig depicted in this human world by the Potala palace in Lhasa Tibet.

    In response to the claim that Buddha never spoke on tobacco that is incorrect. The second Buddha Padmasambava who brought Buddhism into Tibet was the one who gave this teaching on tobacco. HH Dudjom Rinpoche is a terton or one that discovers the teachings that were hidden in the past by the second Buddha for people of this age now.

    Check it out www.dudjom-on-smoking.org
  • "Dhamakara" The second Buddha Padmasambava said that smoking tobacco will cause you to go to hell. Guru Rinpoche/Padmasambava is the being if you did not know that brought the advanced teachings of Buddha into Tibet and thus spread these called the Vajrayana to the present world.
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