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How do I take a Buddhist approach to a boss that yells at me?

edited June 2012 in Buddhism Basics
How do I take a Buddhist approach to a boss that yells at me? Yesterday she made a mistake that was obviously her fault, but she distorted the facts and blammed it on me. She started yelling and trying to make me feel stupid. I start feeling anger, hate, resentment and lowering of my self esteem. I tried to imagine her as a young child so I could see the innate goodness she has, but it's very difficult. Today she is in a better mood, but I still feel very uneasy around her. How do I handle a situation like this without getting caught up in it?

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  • JohnGJohnG Veteran
    Be like water; and let the stone be absorbed into it. Whatever happened that caused her to yell, and be a stone, passed. Be yourself, and maybe whatever caused her to yell, you can fix.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Please don't confuse being a Buddhist, with being a doormat.

    There is nothing in Buddhism that says we have to shut up in the face of idiocy, we just have to be mindful how we tell an idiot, they're an idiot.
  • Well how do I be mindful with standing up for myself, because I try to explain that it's not my fault and it just doesn't absorb in her brain. She purposely chooses to hear what she wants to hear. I also cannot lose my job which is what makes me fearful to be assertive and stand up for myself.
  • Please don't confuse being a Buddhist, with being a doormat.

    There is nothing in Buddhism that says we have to shut up in the face of idiocy, we just have to be mindful how we tell an idiot, they're an idiot.
    Brilliant.

    I agree..
  • Buddhist or no Buddhist - It is not a bad thing that we should occasionally, and politely, put certain people in their place..
  • Please don't confuse being a Buddhist, with being a doormat.

    There is nothing in Buddhism that says we have to shut up in the face of idiocy, we just have to be mindful how we tell an idiot, they're an idiot.
    Buddhists don't assign fundamental attributes to people, or maybe they do.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited June 2012
    make your mind up.....

    ;)
  • make your mind up.....

    ;)
    Everything changes.. ;)
  • Okay I have been there, really. Not as often with a supervisor but with some volatile situations that are tricky. And to maintain a rather buddhist perspective throughout it does not mean doormat but generally you are not reacting in a way that increases the negativity, It can be done, and many years of practice helps so do not be hard on yourself as you try and learn.

    I love the books Courageous Conversations and Courageous Confrontations. I find them very compatible with what we do. For a quickie introduction look for their websites and there is some information as well as an email list where they answer questions about how to deal with individual conflicts.

    Short term, there are ways to have a conversation with your boss that may not change her personality but can help. The most basic tips are to avoid the use of 'you', No matter how right you are it puts people on the defensive and then they do not work with you often. Have the conversation in private when it is a time that pressure is lower, like not right before a deadline. Be firm and very clear and specific, not make judgements or assumptions.

    Here is an example. I had a supervisor who walked all over me in a meeting. I was standing to present my part and she leaned over the table and said everything herself. A few days later I asked to talk to her. I said that during the meeting I was prepared and even standing to present my part. I was chosen to present that part because I was the only one in the room with experience in that (including her). I became very frustrated and embarrassed that while I was standing my entire content was presented. Going forward I wanted to know if I should plan on presenting in our meetings or if we could make a change. She ended up apologizing and actually giving more leadership of the meeting to me and my colleagues.

    The first times I tried this it felt HORRIBLE, it seemed more awkward and even mean to state it all so bluntly. The more female traditional way of adding in random "I'm sorry" and sharing a feeling while expecting the other person to guess more was what I was comfortable with. In a buddhist perspective I felt this was best, I was telling the truth, I was not judging her by trying to figure out why she needed control (which would be an assumption), and I was giving the best opportunity to not cause further conflict and defensiveness.

    Hope that helps!
  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran
    Please don't confuse being a Buddhist, with being a doormat.

    There is nothing in Buddhism that says we have to shut up in the face of idiocy, we just have to be mindful how we tell an idiot, they're an idiot.


    :thumbsup:
  • Let the anger be hers, not yours. If others are angry at the world, that is their problem, not yours. You take care of your mind and do what is necessary to keep it that way. But this doesn't mean doing nothing although sometimes this is the best option.
  • B5CB5C Veteran
    Please don't confuse being a Buddhist, with being a doormat.

    There is nothing in Buddhism that says we have to shut up in the face of idiocy, we just have to be mindful how we tell an idiot, they're an idiot.
    That has to be quote of the month right there.
  • ZaylZayl Veteran
    I had a boss that yelled at me a lot, even when I did something correctly "then you should have DONE IT BETTER"

    A very Buddhist approach is to just not give a shit, personally. Let him yell, not like it's physically hurting you. Yelling only harms you as much as you let it.
  • GuiGui Veteran
    IMO, the best thing to do is to avoid doing something that could get you fired. And, I would add, why waste time over this? She has an ego, apparently, that needs to be fed at the possible expense of others. That is too bad. Fugetaboutit.
  • You have to choose whether or not you can live with this behavior. If not and you feel it is going to be long term, change jobs. Do it wisely but quickly.

    If you cannot change jobs I really feel for you because it is not an easy situation. I've done it myself and told myself not to take it personally but lets be honest, some days will be better than others.

    I found this on the internet and felt it was the Buddhist thing to do to share it with you in hopes that it allevaites some of your suffering.


    Survival strategies for whatever period of time someone is stuck with a boss who yells:

    •Don't take it personally. It's not about you. Good managers who know how to use authority appropriately don't need to yell; problems don't get under their skin because they have effective tools at their disposal (such as performance counseling and moving out employees who aren't the right fit). Don't let their problems affect your sense of yourself.

    •If your boss regularly yells at you, it can be helpful to keep in mind that it's highly likely that that his colleagues know he has a problem and have more sympathy for you than you might realize.

    •Consider addressing the problem head-on by talking to your boss about it. Yellers are people with needy egos to protect, so give his ego the padding it needs before you launch into your request. For instance, start off by saying that you really like the job and the work he gives you--and even that you generally like working for him, if you can stomach that--and then say something like: "I really have trouble hearing your feedback when you yell at me. I definitely want constructive criticism, but it's hard for me to take it in when you're yelling." However, while this can actually have an impact with some bosses and I've heard from people who have done it successfully, be prepared for it not to change much; by definition, we're talking about someone who's a jerk.

    •Escalate it. Look around your workplace--is there a higher-up who seems open to people going outside the chain of command in order to bring problems to her? Going over your boss's head is always tricky, but if an employee came to me to complain about her boss yelling at her, I'd jump at the chance to address the problem. I'm not the only one. You can also go to HR, of course, depending on your HR department's track record of helping employees in similar situations. Know what you're getting into first though: Is the culture one that seems like it would care about abusive managers?

    But really, none of the above will change the fact that that a boss who chronically yells is a jerk and will likely always be a jerk. Your best bet is to start looking at other jobs.






  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    I don't even know! But this is great!!! Thanks for sharing everyone! This is also helpful for me!!!
  • Great advice @zenknight
  • RodrigoRodrigo São Paulo, Brazil Veteran
    edited June 2012
    @zenknight's answer is very good. However, I think there's always room for compassion. Probably she suffers even more than you do.
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran
    How do I take a Buddhist approach to a boss that yells at me?
    You could become a union rep., people tend to shout at you less. ;)
  • howhow Veteran Veteran
    edited July 2012
    Be like water; and let the stone be absorbed into it. Whatever happened that caused her to yell, and be a stone, passed. Be yourself, and maybe whatever caused her to yell, you can fix.
    Please don't confuse being a Buddhist, with being a doormat.

    There is nothing in Buddhism that says we have to shut up in the face of idiocy, we just have to be mindful how we tell an idiot, they're an idiot.
    JohnG tells how to not allow ones own ego to blind you to what is going on with the automatic fear or aggression responses.
    Federica reminds us that having a fall back policy of quietism or activity in an ever changing world has nothing to do with Buddhism's middle way.

    JohnG shows how to develope equinimity while Federica shows how to wield it.

    A pleasure to see.
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    Don't hold or cling to this persons anger. Refuse their gift, let them keep it.
    If necessary go above this person to see if someone in higher authority may alleviate the situation.
    If the situation is intolerable for you, seek new employment.
  • make your mind up.....

    ;)
    I'd rather it be free.
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited July 2012
    Ditto what Federica, & AMH said. (AMH is a real pro on dealing with difficult situations in the workplace.) Do you get annual performance reviews? If your boss regularly blames you for her own mistakes, this could affect your job over time, if it does on your record. I think you should do your best to rectify the misperception. Also keep a log of incidents, in case at some point you have to complain to the Human Resources Dept., or a superior. A log like that could come in handy if you suddenly find yourself unfairly terminated. I don't know how far she would be inclined to take the matter, maybe it was just a momentary outburst. But being a Buddhist means drawing good boundaries. Having good boundaries is a compassionate practice towards ourselves as well as a skillful practice in dealing with others.
  • Going through the same thing. So thanks for answering everyone
  • I had the same experience early this year. I calmly asked my boss after she had blasted me for being late too a meeting " you seem to be suffering" I'm sorry but I have to laugh every time I think of the conversation, she said are you serious, I said yes you look stressed and I'm sorry for adding to your stress, to this day we talk openly about anything and everything, she actually was suffering, her husband had been having an affair.

    Only good can come out of showing genuine concern and compassion and staying calm in heated conversations wether your right or wrong.

    BTW I was late because of my meditation going over time LOL :)
  • Please don't confuse being a Buddhist, with being a doormat.

    There is nothing in Buddhism that says we have to shut up in the face of idiocy, we just have to be mindful how we tell an idiot, they're an idiot.
    @federica that made my day :D So true.
  • I suppose you could hit him with a stick... :)
  • Steve108Steve108 Explorer
    Try not to become too attached to the situation. Attachment to things causes us to suffer.

    With metta _/|\_
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