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As a final practical note, though this paper only examined two teachers, I nevertheless encourage
any students to exercise caution if they observe too many of the same behaviours in their own
spiritual leaders. Indeed, as mentioned above, these types of conduct are all typical warning signs
for dangerous cultic/high-demand groups. I of course particularly cannot recommend practicing
Zen at either Mumon-Kai or the ZSS, though both groups continue to exist today.