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Ringing in my ears

questZENerquestZENer Veteran
edited June 2006 in Buddhism Basics
This is a very personal issue--while I sit (in meditation) I hear ringing. It's continuous. The frequency changes from day to day. Sometimes the ringing is louder, sometimes it's softer. Does anyone have insight to what this is or what it might be? Do others have this experience?

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  • MagwangMagwang Veteran
    edited May 2006
    Yes, I hear it all the time. And its not tinnitis (but you should have your hearing checked anyway)

    It varies in loudness, but not in pitch. I can hear it when I meditate, but it doesn;t usually disturb me

    I believe that it is literally ringing of the auditory sense (mind not the ear organ). Like a bell, it can be stilled if undistriburbed for a time (meditation), but is always there.

    I have also experienced a disconnect of my "hearing" sense (as opposed to my ears not working). While snoozing on airplanes, my awareness drifts in and out. At the threshold barely noticible, I can hear the relatively loud and constant drone of the airplane "cut in" sharply when I regain awareness of it. But not the awareness of losing it, since that is when my thoiughts are focused elsewhere).

    Weird, but strangely in keeping with the idea of conditioned arising when applied to the five aggregates.

    Anyone else experience this? Does it have a name?

    Adam.
  • MagwangMagwang Veteran
    edited May 2006
    I also have the visual equvalent of this lingering auditory effect, but its harder to describe.

    It's kind of like swirling eddys of points within my visual view. It's not dust or blindspots or anything "physical. Its more like my "seeing" sense when there is nothing there but limited eye organ input.

    When my eyes are closed or when its dark, I can see it when I relax my eyeballs and also the act of "seeing". The more relaxed I am, the slower it moves. But is has never "stopped" except when I turn my attention away from it.

    Have not had the visual cut-off effect I described in my previous post, but that's not to say it isn't there but hard to "catch".

    Some would say drop it, its not helpful to analyze this, but I think my experience has been helpful - it's been a great insight for me into my own senses.

    The more I examine the senses, the more I realize how much we are influenced by them, and that they are not "I" in any abiding way.

    ::
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited May 2006
    OK....I can explain both of these....
    But you may not want me to....

    You might rather delight in the apparent Mystery of it all....

    OK.......







    .........If you don't want to know what the score is, look away now....







    I am only assuming this, but chances are you meditate in complete silence, QZener....

    if this is so, what your inner ear is doing is resonating, because there is no sound stimulus.... it's stretching itself to try to hear something, because it thinks it's not functioning properly....
    "No sound? What am I - going deaf?? Turn up the auditory sensory capacity - surely there must be something!!"....

    Your hearing is actually vibrating slightly, in an effort to hear something....

    However, if you're NOT meditating in complete silence - an auditory test may be a good idea. ;)

    As for the swirls behind the eyelids.... Do they take on different colours....? are the swirlings repetitive....? Do they follow a sequential pattern....? (They do.... don't they?)

    These are the cones and rods responding to limited light vision.... It doesn't happen when your eyes are open, because the light is getting in - it doesn't happen when you are going to sleep, because it's dark, and your eyes accept 'blackness'....But in ordinary light, or daylight, your eyes are trying to see something... and the rods and cones are actively trying to see something....

    If I have all this wrong, then talk amongst yourselves, shake your heads in pity, and I'll just sit back in my little corner.....:crazy: :D
  • edited May 2006
    I just LOVE 'fedefacts'! :bigclap:

    Sas :buck:
  • edited May 2006
    hi folks
    this is just a possability,lets assume you dont meditate in complete silence ?
    (If you do then federica maybe right)

    a)when you cover your ears do you still heat this sound ?
    b)if there were other sounds present,can you still hear this ?

    if a and b are the case, then you maybe hearing the "sound of silence."

    Venerable Ajahn Sumedho from the Thai forest tradition gives a talk on this at this link which can be downloaded.

    http://www.dhammatalks.org.uk/sumed.htm

    scroll down to "Listening to the sound of silence"

    then again,could be just a bit of wax ! :-/

    well wishes
  • edited May 2006
    The only ringing I get is the standard high pitch familiar ear damage type, sporatic and non-repeating in similar situations. I've not experienced a mediative ring, :rarr:
  • edited May 2006
    There are several muscles in the ear... the stapedius, tensor tympani, and probably more I don't know offhand. Meditation can relax muscles so perhaps it can effect the muscles enough to change the pressure or something in the ear.

    Another thought is that people with tinnitus go through "tinnitus retraining therapy" which results in making the tinnitus no longer perceptible while conscious (habituation of perception). If the latter happened automatically for you, you may be experiencing a breakdown of this mental "filter" at a different state of consciousness.

    Or maybe it's neither...
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited May 2006
    You sure it's not "Led Zeppelin IV"???

    -bf
  • edited May 2006
    I'm not a scientist...so if there is one here feel free to shoot me down. Personally, I have continuous ringing, at times it is a roar. It is a known aspect of kundalini, and has been mentioned in the Tibetan Buddhist/tantric traditions...as they deal with 'winds'.
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited June 2006
    Ringing in the ears is also a symptom of hypertension (high blood pressure).

    Sorry...

    Palzang
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited June 2006
    I have what is apparently termed as 'Imitative Tinnitus'....that is, my hearing picks up on a specific (usually very high-pitched) sound - and "broadcasts" it all day.....

    My hearing is not perfect in my left ear, and that of my right is now beginning to come out in sympathy... The loss of hearing seems to be genetic, because my father has the same problem, only worse - but it's exacerbated by having suffered an inner ear infection when much younger...

    If I hear an alarm clock in the morning:
    'biddly-bip, biddly-bip, biddly-bip.....'

    Even if I turn it off immediately - and know it's off - I still continue hearing it seconds later - same volume, same pitch and tone..... all day.

    All bloody day.

    And I can't turn it off.....

    "I'm up, fer goodness' sake!!" (that's me, at three in the afternoon....) :lol:
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited June 2006
    federica wrote:

    If I hear an alarm clock in the morning:
    'biddly-bip, biddly-bip, biddly-bip.....'

    Even if I turn it off immediately - and know it's off - I still continue hearing it seconds later - same volume, same pitch and tone..... all day.

    All bloody day.

    And I can't turn it off.....

    "I'm up, fer goodness' sake!!" (that's me, at three in the afternoon....) :lol:

    Sounds like a new hell realm! :(
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