I love paradigm shifts.

keithg

First of all I would like to thank you all for the opportunity to learn from this website, thank all of you for contributing to the discussions on this forum. Second, I would like to thank you for helping me with reaching a greater understanding of things, and for pointing me in the direction of an extreme paradigm shift.
Third I would like to recommend everyone who can get a chance to, to watch the film from this website: http://www.whatthebleep.com/ I have so much more appreciation of things right now due to that show explaining some things to me. I am certain that all of you would be absolutely delighted with that documentary.

I am in a wonderful mood right now, and I felt compelled to share it with all of you.
Be sure to smile and tell yourself "I am wonderful" after reading this post for me.

Thanks,
Keith

Simonthepilgrim

The marketing roll-out of the new enlightenment has only released the first DVD in the UK.

After the Awakening, the Spin-offs!

colleen

yes yes keithg!
i to watched "what the bleep.." 6 times!
there was so much to learn i could not grasp it all..

i cant wait til " down the rabbit hole" comes out.. it is suppose to be even
better i have read some reviews. the part in the movie where the one guy
"makes his day".. is suppose to be guided into much more depth.
if you watched "what the bleep.." just once i advice you to watch it again ..

also check online .. there are private viewings for the "down the rabbit hole"
in different states. im heading to florida and i wish i could view it down there. but
i dont think i can.
the dvd does come out in august though.

i put a post out awhile ago.. suggesting this is a movie to watch.. but i never
heard any response.
glad to hear someone else enjoyed it!

buddhafoot

I remember when a paradigms used to be able to buy a comic book or a candy bar.

-bf

Brigid

LOL!!! That's terrible, BF!

keithg

Colleen,
I plan on buying The Bleep, and Down the Rabbit Hole. I might even buy a second one of The Bleep to give to a friend of mine. I have looked at the private viewings section, I couldn't find any where I live, so I will just have to wait until I buy it, or until I can find it on TV again.

Iawa

You might also look out for the movie, "Peaceful Warrior", based on the book Way of the Peaceful Warrior- by Dan Millman. Also, " The Celestine Prophecy " is out in limited release nationwide.

And, in "What the Bleep" that's not a lama that's a channeler.

Palzang

I thought "what the bleep" was OK, but very simplistic and just wrong on their science for the most part. The animations of the cytokines were cool tho. Actually I rather enjoyed the channeler, but some of the other people interviewed were not particularly interesting. You do know that this movie was made by the channeler's (J.Z. Knight) "cult", Ramtha, don't you? I mean, she does have some charisma going for her, I'll give her that. Oh, most of the people involved in the film, from the production of it to being interviewed in it, are members of the cult.

For a skeptical viewpoint on the movie, go to http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_the_bleep_.html

I have to say I pretty much agree with everything they say there. The examples they used were horrendous examples of bad science, or rather non-science - particularly the water crystals one. That is just so absurd I can't believe anyone falls for it! Sort of like contrails...too absurdly stupid even to comment...

Palzang

Iawa

Palzang wrote:

I have to say I pretty much agree with everything they say there. The examples they used were horrendous examples of bad science, or rather non-science - particularly the water crystals one. That is just so absurd I can't believe anyone falls for it! Sort of like contrails...too absurdly stupid even to comment...

Palzang

I admit the crystal demonstration was prety out there for me, but some of the science stands. What are your qualifications with neurobiology or neuropsychology. Anyone worth their salt would know that the information comes from the studies that have been done on cooralates of consciousness which were blind. Consciousness was once described as a river. Later it was likened to a movie, every moment in its own frame. Research now has provided an even more clear view of thoughts as waves united with perpetual neurological feedback.

“As soon as neurological signals within the visual cortex or even between the cortex and the deeper brain regions start shuffling information back and forth, as they do, subsequent information can distort the processing of earlier information, and Vice Versa.”

“ “Neuronal Correlates of Consciousness” or NCCs the set of firings among neurons that correlates with each bit we experience.” By Chrisrof Koch

Tests have concluded that a word can be recognized and responded to in a tenth of a second. Tests where color lights were used to measure reation actual measurements were reactions within 300- 500 milliseconds.

For example: you’re reading somebody’s post on the board, instantly, you think ‘sounds like’ or ‘hints at’. The whole message doesn’t even need to be read, it’s been judged and dismissed or worse a defense mechanism kicks in saying, “This can’t be true.”, and the mind generates such a “buzz saw” of questions and criticism that the information can not be digested in defense of a prior established framework.

So to me, a much of the afforementioned argument is lost. I can see how someone would cling to such rhetorical dribble to solidify truth within their own convictions.

By his own corrolates, the reviewer confirmed what he wanted to see, and came up with rationalizations and justifications to support it. Sounds like how we got into this war in Iraq.

Sorry, did I get your correlates going?

To me that's the purpose of meditation, the practice Kyudo, and other so called Zen arts, to unlink from the conditioned mind as the movie loosely describes. Further, the research on meditation presented to the Dali Lama and the scientific community by American scientists late last year confirmed such findings with EEG and MRI evidence.

Palzang

Iawa wrote:

I admit the crystal demonstration was prety out there for me, but some of the science stands. What are your qualifications with neurobiology or neuropsychology. Anyone worth their salt would know that the information comes from the studies that have been done on cooralates of consciousness which were blind. Consciousness was once described as a river. Later it was likened to a movie, every moment in its own frame. Research now has provided an even more clear view of thoughts as waves united with perpetual neurological feedback.

“As soon as neurological signals within the visual cortex or even between the cortex and the deeper brain regions start shuffling information back and forth, as they do, subsequent information can distort the processing of earlier information, and Vice Versa.”

“ “Neuronal Correlates of Consciousness” or NCCs the set of firings among neurons that correlates with each bit we experience.” By Chrisrof Koch

Tests have concluded that a word can be recognized and responded to in a tenth of a second. Tests where color lights were used to measure reation actual measurements were reactions within 300- 500 milliseconds.

For example: you’re reading somebody’s post on the board, instantly, you think ‘sounds like’ or ‘hints at’. The whole message doesn’t even need to be read, it’s been judged and dismissed or worse a defense mechanism kicks in saying, “This can’t be true.”, and the mind generates such a “buzz saw” of questions and criticism that the information can not be digested in defense of a prior established framework.

So to me, a much of the afforementioned argument is lost. I can see how someone would cling to such rhetorical dribble to solidify truth within their own convictions.

By his own corrolates, the reviewer confirmed what he wanted to see, and came up with rationalizations and justifications to support it. Sounds like how we got into this war in Iraq.

Sorry, did I get your correlates going?

To me that's the purpose of meditation, the practice Kyudo, and other so called Zen arts, to unlink from the conditioned mind as the movie loosely describes. Further, the research on meditation presented to the Dali Lama and the scientific community by American scientists late last year confirmed such findings with EEG and MRI evidence.

Well, I've got an MS in cell biology from the University of Chicago, and I work as a researcher for a nutraceutical company writing technical reports and research summaries. How's that?

Anyway, the rest of your comments are pretty incomprehensible, so I won't even try to respond to them. Suffice it to say that if it smells like a rat, walks like a rat, and has a tail like a rat, it's probably a rat.

Palzang

keithg

Palzang wrote:

I thought "what the bleep" was OK, but very simplistic and just wrong on their science for the most part. The animations of the cytokines were cool tho. Actually I rather enjoyed the channeler, but some of the other people interviewed were not particularly interesting. You do know that this movie was made by the channeler's (J.Z. Knight) "cult", Ramtha, don't you? I mean, she does have some charisma going for her, I'll give her that. Oh, most of the people involved in the film, from the production of it to being interviewed in it, are members of the cult.

For a skeptical viewpoint on the movie, go to http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_the_bleep_.html

I have to say I pretty much agree with everything they say there. The examples they used were horrendous examples of bad science, or rather non-science - particularly the water crystals one. That is just so absurd I can't believe anyone falls for it! Sort of like contrails...too absurdly stupid even to comment...

Palzang

Palzang, thank you for the information. I saw this advertised on the Science Channel at one point. Then I saw it on another channel and watched it. Things I see on the Science Channel usually are credible, and I missed most of the interviews with the channeling of Ramtha. I found the science very interesting, and it was a very inspirational movie. Sadly I am not familiar with the idea of quantum mechanics, thanks for sending me that skeptical viewpoint.

The parts that I wanted to buy the film for were about the neurons, and what they said about biochemical addictions (please tell me if that was accurate) I will now not buy it, thank you very much for the information. Instead I am going to buy a television show I watched shortly afterwards about String Theory. Very interesting the idea of membranes.

Iawa

Palzang wrote:

Anyway, the rest of your comments are pretty , so I won't even try to respond to them.

Palzang

PM me a valid mailing addres and I'll get you a copy of "The Movie in Your Head" -by Cristoff Koch* from the November '05 issue of the "Scientific American Mind".

Apologies for the "readers digest" content of my prior response. I tend to write in a "stream of consciousness" fassion on these message boards.
*Christoff Koch- http://www.questforconsciousness.com/cont.html

Palzang

Keith,

It's been a couple of years since I saw the movie, but as I recall, the parts on the neurons and the cytokines were pretty accurate (and the graphics were very good). Sorry I can't be more specific, but like I said, it's been a while since I saw the movie.

Palzang

Palzang

For a real paradigm shift, try reading The Holistic Universe. I forget the author, but it should be easy to find on Amazon. It really blew my mind! And of course, Buddhism itself is a real paradigm shift once you get into it. It makes you rethink "reality" all over and brings you to the realization that what you thought was reality isn't. My teacher rearranges my molecules regularly!

Palzang

colleen

hmm.. im gona respond later after i give your posts a second good read.
but i had to add my thoughts now.
cult???
i dont believe everything i see / read or hear..
but i really dont think this is cult related..
what is the meaning of cult anyway.. someone who lures ya in for cashola?
well pff that describes many things.

gona get back to ya on that.