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Sensibility, and intolerance

Hello friends, and happy 21th of December hehe!


I was thinking right now, about how usually one has to wear a social mask in order for defending one self of society. I used to wear such mask for a long time, but recently I got tired and decided that I would be as spontaneous as possible.

Last morning, I put a facebook status talking about how I wouldn't connect to facebook for two days, and that I wished everyone good luck and a wonderful future in case something was to happen today hehe. I even joked, that if something happens we would see each other on another dimension. I thought my message would be taken nicely, and such. But what I found instead, was people attacking me on facebook? it came to the point of some telling me they had lost respect for me. This evening, I tried to explain that I don't believe in a zombie apocalypse per se, but of a transformation of the spirit. Also, I said that I prefer to believe ancient knowledge of many tribes instead of blindy believing everything NASA says for example. What I received of reply from someone I thought was a friend was the he was going to delete me from the friendlist because he didn't tolerate my ideas.

I know this all might sound very shallow. But, usually these things affect me as I'm a very sensible person. What causes this over-sensitivity? is it the ego? how can I handle that words do not affect me?

And second, what do you think about intolerance? People usually talk about tolerance, yet just look at this tiny example. Just for thinking something will happen in a spiritual way, I get angry replies from people I thought there were my friends. What should a follower of Dharma strive for? Society attacks who is different. So should use continue using a mask. Or simply go out of that circle of people?

Comments

  • If you put anything out there it is free game for anyone to digest, interpret and project.

    They cannot read your intention as they only see their intentions, desires, projections.

    So one must realize that there is an uncertainty for all action we do.

    For instance that post became the karmic condition for the aggressive behavior to appear.

    In these circumstances we must not react with the same aggression but rather we must hold our ground with space and kindness. Let those who are offended leave as they only see their face. And be grateful for those who stay as their time isn't long.

    There is a freedom in this world not from the world but freedom for the world.

    This freedom even allowing the aggressive behavior of others. But that doesn't call for passive action. When one is large and one has a great heart then and only then should one take action.

    Just like if a child was going to harm themselves. We must prevent and scold them. That is taking perspective, space and kindness into action.

    Much love friend.
    Jeffrey
  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Moderator
    I don't like the word tolerance, and I never hate. Tolerate means "I'll put up with you because I am told I'm supposed to." It has next to nothing to do with acceptance. If someone feels they need to tolerate me, then I guess I'd rather not have to deal with them, lol. It seems like foolish behavior to me.

    A friend of mine posted something similar on FB, just the typical "it's the end of the world as we know it" referring to the song by REM, and just a joke on his part. I said something along the lines of "well, perhaps it's time for the world as we know it to come to an end. It isn't all that fabulous lately." and I even specified that I did not mean in hellfire and brimstone end, but just a change in the way we all life. And man, did I get crap for that, lol.
  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran

    Hello friends, and happy 21th of December hehe!


    I was thinking right now, about how usually one has to wear a social mask in order for defending one self of society. I used to wear such mask for a long time, but recently I got tired and decided that I would be as spontaneous as possible.

    Last morning, I put a facebook status talking about how I wouldn't connect to facebook for two days, and that I wished everyone good luck and a wonderful future in case something was to happen today hehe. I even joked, that if something happens we would see each other on another dimension. I thought my message would be taken nicely, and such. But what I found instead, was people attacking me on facebook? it came to the point of some telling me they had lost respect for me. This evening, I tried to explain that I don't believe in a zombie apocalypse per se, but of a transformation of the spirit. Also, I said that I prefer to believe ancient knowledge of many tribes instead of blindy believing everything NASA says for example. What I received of reply from someone I thought was a friend was the he was going to delete me from the friendlist because he didn't tolerate my ideas.

    I know this all might sound very shallow. But, usually these things affect me as I'm a very sensible person. What causes this over-sensitivity? is it the ego? how can I handle that words do not affect me?

    And second, what do you think about intolerance? People usually talk about tolerance, yet just look at this tiny example. Just for thinking something will happen in a spiritual way, I get angry replies from people I thought there were my friends. What should a follower of Dharma strive for? Society attacks who is different. So should use continue using a mask. Or simply go out of that circle of people?

    First, when you put something out there are Facebook, aren't you expecting some kind or response? Don't you think that when they read what you have offered them that they are going to have a response, and perhaps one they give to you (as opposed to one they just keep internally)?

    Second, you yourself said, "I know this all might sound very shallow."

    I have a former student who posts multiple times per day on Facebook. He's an odd, but very likable guy...now an adult. I read his posts, and sometimes I feel like I'd like to kick him in the ass and ask him to rethink what he has said. But then I would be lecturing him, so instead I respond to the content.

    As far as tolerance, there's just so much any of us can tolerate. We all have our toleration limits. I'm a pretty tolerant guy. I sometimes put up with a lot of shit from some people. But there is also a place I draw the line.

    But, let's paraphrase Harry Truman...if you can't stand the head, stay out of the kitchen...and this time that applies to if you can't stand the response, don't make the post.

  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Moderator
    It's helpful to ask if you really need "friends" who unfriend you because of something you posted on FB. People have very different views of FB. None is really right or wrong, but yes, FB is a network designed for you to post things and for people to respond to them. But some people treat their FB wall as if it is their private house, and they think "if I post something to MY WALL that doesn't mean you can come there and put down what I said. If you disagree, fine, but don't do it on my wall."

    I have unfriended people on FB over their views. Not because "oh you are Catholic/Republican/too short" or whatever. But specific things they have said that are just foolish and I decided I didn't want to have to keep reading the stuff they were saying. Things like calling names instead of debating issues. I don't care if you disagree with every word I say, but I'm not going to have you coming over to a discussion I started and ranting and raving that we're all mentally ill (had that happen, and it was a girl I'd been friends with since 2nd grade). I just don't have time, or desire to baby sit adults on FB.
  • You're right, if I post something, I'll receive a reply. And you're right too, if someone is going to unfriend for something like that, means better not being friends at all.

    I just think that is funny how thinking in a rather esoteric way is seen as something terrible by some.
  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Moderator
    A lot of people feel threatened by it. When my mom joined the Catholic church, the priest told her at one point that he was terrified of people who want to do "mind control" behaviors, like meditation and yoga, because we should be handing our minds over to God, not thinking we can control them on our own. That type of thinking and fear is spread by priests and others like them to their "flock." People fear what they don't understand. Often because it makes them feel dumb to not know what someone is talking about. Instead of just asking and engaging, they say something offensive and run away so they don't have to deal with it. They feel strongly about their beliefs to, but in the world of many people, questioning your beliefs is not something you should do.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    I love the fact that you stated you wouldn't connect for two days.....

    Only 2 days?
    is that all you can manage?
    I occasionally don't connect for weeks at a time... sure, the first few hours is a challenge, but then, you discover the beauty of simply not saying anything at all.....

    Silence, in and of itself, speaks louder than any words.

    *Holds up flower*.

    ;)
    WonderingSeeker
  • You might like the lojong teachings of atisha. They are about taking in the bad and giving out good. Reverse of the heart to it's spiritual position.
  • howhow Veteran Veteran
    A different way to approach this is to look at all ego upwelling on your part or others, as the most pertinent Dharma of the moment for you.
    It precisely points out attachments and allows us the opportunity to consider their arising causes & effects. Adopting this form of response changes our perspective from "Why am I'm being attacked" to "look at what is pulling my chain".

    It moves one from the defensive hurt position to one of Dharmic opportunity

  • @how thank you, it is very useful this information :)

    @federica , You're right, I should manage more. As a young adult, I find myself usually bombarbed with facebook messages and notifications every single day. I don't exaggerate when I say that when I got sick last year and couldn't be online for 2 weeks some people thought I had died lol.
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