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Meditation Group

edited August 2006 in Sanghas
So I went to my first "Meditation Group" session and I absolutely loved it. It was so wonderful, and moving and just great. For whatever reason, it was somewhat emotional for me and I did see another lady there crying towards the end....is this fairly common in group sessions?

I can't wait to go to another one.

Comments

  • MagwangMagwang Veteran
    edited August 2006
    In Meditation I have heard other people sobbing, snoring even chuckling. It brings a lot of "stuff" from the subconcious to the surface, so you never know what you might hear bubbling up from your own mind or from others. It's normal.

    ::
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited August 2006
    Chicks sure do cry a lot.

    -bf
  • edited August 2006
    Oh, shut your pie hole before I give you something to cry about.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited August 2006
    Oh yah, men cry too, ya big wuss......!


    (and we love 'em for it.....;) )
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited August 2006
    Although I do cry when I hear a chick that weighs about a buck-five layin' the smack down :)
    Tears of joy! :)


    -bf
  • edited August 2006
    Only real men cry...apparently, bf is not one of them. ;)

    You tell him, fede! She may only weigh about a buck-five, but she's one tough cookie!
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited August 2006
    But seriously...

    I have seen people in accupressure, massage, meditation, etc. that have cried. True, it's always been the chicks in my experience - just cuz I guess I they like crying all the time or something (when they're not complaining).

    I think people either have certain experiences during these (and other) practices or possibly have built it up into something very emotional and moving for them. Then, the act of participation releases something or validates their participation in it.

    While I don't go for a whole bunch of New Age goo-gah - I do believe that a good cry and a good laugh have wonderful effects on the human body and mind.

    So, Yoda - you go, girl.

    -bf
  • edited August 2006
    I didn't actually break down into tears myself, but I just felt like I could. I think it has a lot to do with the situation I have been dealing with lately in my life. It would have been a "good" cry. :) It also had to do with the fact that we were discussing all the wars going on in this world right now.
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited August 2006
    YogaMama wrote:
    Only real men cry...apparently, bf is not one of them. ;)

    You tell him, fede! She may only weigh about a buck-five, but she's one tough cookie!

    I was talking about YOU weight a buck-five, knuckle-head.

    -bf
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited August 2006
    YogaMama wrote:
    I didn't actually break down into tears myself, but I just felt like I could. I think it has a lot to do with the situation I have been dealing with lately in my life. It would have been a "good" cry. :) It also had to do with the fact that we were discussing all the wars going on in this world right now.

    I may be wrong - but I still feel it was the overall experience and everything that you build it up to be.

    I know you've talked about the ugliness of war on these boards and have never known you to be moved to tears - I just believe it was the entire experience that had it's affect on you. And I think experiences like this are good. It gets us out of our comfort zone. New experiences mean new feelings, new thoughts, new enlightenment, new compassions, new acceptances - all wonderful input on this Path.

    And I can cry. Like I've said... my girlfriend says I'm pretty damn chicky. In fact, here is a picture of me crying... and smoking a cigar.

    -bf
  • edited August 2006
    You may be right...I am sure it did have a lot to do with the whole experience itself. Whatever it was, it was sure nice to be sitting in a room full of people that weren't judging each other and I could just feel the all the love in the air! :) It was so nice.

    That's a great picture of you. You look hot.
  • edited August 2006
    buddhafoot wrote:
    I was talking about YOU weight a buck-five, knuckle-head.

    -bf

    ME??!! A buck-five? I am thin, but I am 5'10" tall, so I do weigh a little more than that. :)
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited August 2006
    YogaMama wrote:

    That's a great picture of you. You look hot.

    I know.

    -bf
  • edited August 2006
    LOL!
  • BrigidBrigid Veteran
    edited August 2006
    It also has to do with the fact that we spend much of our time in defense posture, holding extreme pain deep inside and trying to deflect it from the outside. When we go through a very painful situation the defense posture becomes particularly noticeable; tight, lowered shoulders, chin down, back rounded, fists and forearms tight, jaw tight, stomach tight and protected, etc. When we're then put into a very safe environment our bodies relax just like our mental defenses do and very often the result will be a pouring out of stored emotion.

    I've seen many people, not just women, burst into uncontrollable weeping while on the chiropractic bench. My chiropractor practices NSA (Network Spinal Analysis) which is a very new technique that requires an extra 6 years of study on top of the 4 years for normal chiropracty. There are no adjustments or cracking or anything like that in NSA. What she does is study the patient extensively and then pinpoints certain nerve areas in the patient's body and presses lightly on them. It's much, much more involved than that and I could never properly explain it but it's much more like acupressure than chiropracty. There's no pain, cracking or rough manipulation involved whatsoever and it works miracles.

    During my sixth week of intensive therapy with her I was lying on the bench and all of a sudden I started to weep and I couldn't stop. There were tissue boxes everywhere and now I understood why. I was afraid the other patients would think I'd lost it but they just smiled gently at me. I must have cried for two and half hours. My chiropractor hugged me and told me it was perfectly normal and actually a great response and a good sign that I was progressing and loosening up physically and emotionally. It was like everything that had ever hurt me in my life was coming out of me and even at the height of the crying I was feeling this intense relief, like waves and waves of comfort.

    After a few months I was at an appointment when another patient, a middle aged man, started to weep and this time it was my turn to smile supportively at him. He was very embarrassed but I could tell he still wanted to keep crying because he knew a lot of crap was coming out.

    I spent a year in her care during which I saw many, many people break down like that, including her student chiropractor. Every time I walked into that office I felt like I was walking into the safest place on earth. She was able to help me more than any of the doctors or specialists or physiotherapists or acupunturists I've ever seen. I'd still be with her if it weren't for the fact that the insurance company won't pay for the entrainments (as the "adjustments" are called) and I'd need really intensive work now that I'm so much worse than I was then.

    A few months after I had to give up going to her my back fell apart when I sneezed and I couldn't move, couldn't get out of bed without my mother's help and was in such pain I thought I was going to go mad. I wasn't taking medication in those days, I was very stubborn about not taking pharmaceuticals. My mother called Dr. Smith (my chiro) and she drove all the way out here, half an hour from her office in town, after her office closed that day. She gave me a treatment as I lay in my bed and within 15 minutes I went from 9-10 on the pain scale to 5-6 and she'd been able to stop the muscle spasms with just her brains, her compassion and knowledge of me and her thumb. I swear to whomever, she worked miracles for me. After she left, the weeping started and I cried and laughed for hours until I fell asleep. The release from extreme pain, even though it's temporary, will often make grown men weep.
  • edited August 2006
    That was a beautiful post, Brigid.
  • BrigidBrigid Veteran
    edited August 2006
    Thanks, Aquula.
  • edited August 2006
    hmm i go often to the chiro.. but normal spinal manipulation for me.. i don't feel as much pain as i used to... thing i been doing is putting on muscle.. although i can't put hardly any on cause i don't gain weight.. its been easier
    and im pretty used to pain anyway..

    i've had braces.. which cause ur gums to bleed, and give nice indents into ur cheeks.. make it almost impossible to eat without being in severe pain, ingrowing toenails.. pff u name it.. pain pain pain

    i once cried.. because everything built up.. and i cudn't stop it.. depression,fear, loneliness everything...you just have to let it go

    it can take a while to realise your back isn't the one holding you down.. its not as bad as you think and its not the only thing ppl notice
  • edited August 2006
    I have been teaching meditation for a number of years … I do it because I can help someone every once in a while.

    There is a particular stage of practice where strong emotions arise, but this can happen at any stage of practice depending on certain conditions.

    It is healthy and fully human to fully feel. Too often we repress our feelings, not allowing ourselves recognition of what is, and not allowing ourselves our full humanness.

    In some movie, a character said that “women are creatures of the heart.” This is true. Men are also creatures of the heart.
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited August 2006
    When you say you "teach meditation", warrior man, what do you mean porecisely?
  • edited August 2006
    About once a week, a few people come, and I give a talk and then lead a meditation.

    I did this for about two years, and then I started sharing time with Rev. Genryu, but then he had to go away. :O(

    I didn’t want to give any more meditations but a few people wanted me to continue, so I did. I like to do it but I don’t think I am any good at it relative to most peoples’ expectations.

    I like emptiness meditations – no mind meditations. However, I have noticed that most people like and need guided meditations. So I usually give guided and/or visual meditations. Also, I like writing talks very much but few people seem to connect with my talks! :O)

    I am just what I am. When I give talks and lead meditations, I am just my natural self. No big deal! Nothing to write home about! But I love it SO MUCH!
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