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Beauty...Curse or Gift???

edited September 2006 in Buddhism Today
As some of you may know, I am a big fan of the FX show Nip/Tuck. It is about two superficial plastic surgeons who make people look perfect but they themselves are imperfect in their lives. Last season, the show was rather dark and depressing featuring a serial rapist who tormented the surgeons and almost ruining their pracice. This bizzare criminal picked out society's most beautiful people and carved their faces in the form of a bloody smile from ear to ear. He blamed plastic surgeons for 'carving' what is real out of life and only making it superficial

His signature saying was, "Beauty is a curse on the world, it keeps us from seeing who the real monsters are."

Not just our culture, but humans in general seem to have an obsession with beauty. This most likely stems from our biology seeing as good physicial attributes help in procreation. Even the ancient Romans obsessed over beauty. It really is nothing new.

Beauty is undoubtedly a commodity. It can influence friends, jobs, partners, among other things. But a curse? Many people do spend their lives obsessing over that perfect body, soul mate, and social acceptance, much of which is related to their relative beauty. Some even commit suicide because they don't have it.

So what do you think? Curse? Gift? Or something else perhaps?

Comments

  • edited September 2006
    I was told by a local therevada master that if we want to be beautiful like the people in film and television in the next life we should practice compassion. I definetly believe that beauty is a gift, it definetly makes live easier and makes people like you more. However because beauty is so subjective it is a very shallow gift.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited September 2006
    Beauty is subjective...different cultures have different opinions and views of beauty....
    Some cultures like their women rotund and ample....some like them with shaven heads or elongated necks.....others like their women with hairy armpits and nose bones....

    If magazines, newspapers and the media in general are to be believed, our culture and society prefers tall, willowy excessively slim women, with big breasts and hips you could hang a coat on....
    although some men I have spoken to insist they prefer a bit of flesh, rather than a 'box of spanners'....

    Ultimately, I believe it comes down to self-esteem and self perception.
    I am short, slightly dumpy and definitely not on the list of the 1000 world's most beautiful women.
    I don't care.
    I am a nice person, and I am more content with myself now, than I have ever been.
    As far as I am concerned, that's beauty enough.
  • ajani_mgoajani_mgo Veteran
    edited September 2006
    Hah! This reminds me of the show "Shallow Hal" - where poor Hal is hypnotised to look for "inner beauty" rather than physical appearances - much to the shock of his life when he finally snaps out of it.

    Anyway true enough, even as beauty is cultural, researchers seem to have claimed to know the secret of beauty, facial symmetry. The more symmetrical your face is, the more handsome/pretty you are. (Does pimple distribution count? :p)

    I guess for me I make a distinction between what is "pretty" based on outer appearances and what is "beautiful" based on inner qualities.

    Perhaps looking pretty is not so much of either blessing or curse... As Confucius always advised his followers to not pick a pretty woman to be their wife, for she could have been a wife of somebody else in the past, or the wife of another in the future (and in those times, be more likely to be selected to be sacrificed to appease the gods whenever it flooded).

    Of course, in modern times, having a pretty face earns you quite many privilleges... But beauty now can be "sold" literally, and trust me, even the ugliest duckling, under some motivation to care for her looks a little more, can become the most attractive swan.

    Right, why the focus on women? But anyway, calling beauty a gift or a curse is almost as conclusive as calling modern technology a curse or a gift... Many factors come to play too... If you happen to be stuck with a bunch of boring me and my weird clones, having a pretty face won't get you as far as a beautiful heart. If you get stuck with Crusoe on his island, do you think he'd give Friday up to you just to oogle at you? In the future where mankind is enlightened enough to not commit any sexual offences, do you think people will worry for looking good?

    Yet chances are that, if you ask around now, it is still safer to assume that most will count a pretty face as a gift. Heck, look good for all you want/can - but if you know how to manage (in terms of not crying over it when you get wrinkled in your old age - and stay out of obvious harm caused by it) and coordinate it well with your more-lasting inner beauty - go for it! :)

    Anyway, off-topic, across all cultures, we all know that men want different types of women... But across all cultures, what is it that women want? :p
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited September 2006
    Beauty is neither a gift or a curse. In fact, it is probably just a delusion. It is impermanent. It means nothing. If a person were never to see other people - would their beauty or lack of be diminished or enhanced?

    It's what the rest of us define as beauty.

    Years ago - plumpness was a sign of beauty. In some nations it still is seen as a sign of beauty or power (that one has enough to eat to become fat means they can provide well for themselves).

    Not in the US in the 21 century though! Emaciation is the flavor of the day!

    -bf
  • edited September 2006
    As some of you may know, I am a big fan of the FX show Nip/Tuck.

    So what do you think? Curse? Gift? Or something else perhaps?


    I too have been guilty of watching, but that also was when I began to observe the observer. See myself and everyone watching TV, and see what a waste of energy it is.
    Beauty is superficial due to DNA structures. Our hang-ups have been engineered into our system, part the domestic conditioning and part neuronal development for a millinia.

    So, how to get beyond that programming. "Waking up to what you do"* is a good start.



    * -also a book title
  • edited September 2006
    Iawa wrote:
    I too have been guilty of watching, but that also was when I began to observe the observer. See myself and everyone watching TV, and see what a waste of energy it is.
    Beauty is superficial due to DNA structures. Our hang-ups have been engineered into our system, part the domestic conditioning and part neuronal development for a millinia.

    So, how to get beyond that programming. "Waking up to what you do"* is a good start.



    * -also a book title

    Just in---

    From Tricycle's daily dharmma--

    The Object Which is Now

    The first step ... is to cut off the chain of associated concepts and words that flood the mind, holding it with recollection on the present, on what is. Thus in a famous verse, the Buddha used to say, "Don't chase after the past, don't seek the future; the past is gone, the future hasn't come. But see clearly on the spot, that object which is now, while finding and living in a still, unmoving state of mind."

    Thought this was relevent.
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited September 2006
    To add to what Iawa says, bauty in the past is only a memory and future beauty only a fantasy. If you want to find beauty, its only home is here and now.
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited September 2006
    Beauty, like all other things, is empty in nature. It is neither good not bad; it just is.

    Palzang
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited September 2006
    I've heard ugly people say this before.

    Not that I'm saying... I mean... I wasn't referring to... well.. I just better shut up now.

    -bf
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited September 2006
    I'm so ugly I'm beautiful!

    Palzang
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited September 2006
    I think you are scrumpdili-icious!

    -bf
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited September 2006
    Like a Twinkie that has been run over by an 18 wheeler!


  • SabineSabine Veteran
    edited September 2006
    Palzang wrote:
    Like a Twinkie that has been run over by an 18 wheeler!


    :scratch: *blows raspberry*
  • XraymanXrayman Veteran
    edited September 2006
    I prefer to think of my own face as a dropped meat pie. uggh.
  • XraymanXrayman Veteran
    edited September 2006
    ...or a twisted sandshoe.
  • edited September 2006
    Beauty, is it not in the eyes of the beholder? If you are beautiful for one but not for another then are you truly beautiful? Good looks you may have but do they last? Never unless you have surgery and then for only so long......Look at many of our celebrates that have had to many face lifts.
    Have you not seen someone that you thought was ugly on the outside but after getting to know them you thought they were truly beautiful and could not guess how it was possible to have not seen them as beautiful? Or met someone who you thought was so beautiful they knocked you off your feet but after getting to know them you no longer could see even their physical beauty because they were so ugly on the inside.

    Beauty comes from within...................


    Yep, you guessed it................not the prettiest girl on the block and I'm fluffy too :)
  • edited September 2006
    Yes I have known people both ugly and beautiful on the inside. That is what makes beauty such a paradox. It only reflects the superficial.
  • edited September 2006
    YES, EXACTLY !!
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