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Slandering the Dharma
Palzang
Veteran
As many of you know, it is a popular sport in some quarters to slander the Dharma and the teachers who, out of boundless love for all beings, come into this world to teach the Dharma to their unworthy students. A certain person, known to our temple, has started a blog in which, amongst other things, he has been slandering His Holiness Penor Rinpoche, his chief attendant, my teacher, and various people in our sangha. When my teacher, Jetsunma, discovered that this person had begun a campaign of hatred and lies against His Holiness, she requested her students to rise to the defense of His Holiness and defend him against such filth.
In accordance with Jetsunma's wishes I am presenting the following, written by Jetsunma herself:
Anyone who turns the mind of a sentient being away from the profound blessings of a living Buddha, like His Holiness Penor Rinpoche is either insane, stupendously ignorant or demonic.
This has gone too far. The sangha should pick up pen and paper and write about His Holiness. His Holiness is peerless; nobody has done what he has done. The extent of his Dharma activity is unmatched anywhere in the world; the loving care which he has provided for his students is unmatched, and the sublime purity with which he has kept his three levels of vows: outer, inner and secret, cannot be denied.
Christianity says, and I would like to borrow the phrase, “…by their fruits you will know them.”
Those who would put him down are dealers of hate. They speak hate, they breathe hate, and the vile pus of their hatred is their nectar.
At the time of their death they will see what they have done.
--Jetsunma Ahkon Lhamo
I would just like to add that His Holiness is the lama who ordained me as a gelong (fully ordained) monk, and that he is the lama who bravely recognized my teacher as a tulku (reincarnate lama) when it was very controversial to do so. He is the source of all the blessings I have received in my pitiful life, and to see him treated in this horrendous way by one who does not have the merit to kiss his feet makes me sick.
He came out of Tibet with many other Tibetan lamas, monks and ordinary citizens after the Chinese had brutally put down the uprising by the Tibetan people against their illegal occupation of their country. Coming to India with only a few monks and no money, he received a small parcel of land in Southern India, a few thousand rupees, and an elephant. Almost single-handedly His Holiness built a large monastery to house all those who would come after him. Today that monastery is the largest Tibetan Buddhist monastery anywhere, including Tibet. Its shedra (monastic university) is the largest as well, and the quality of the khenpos it produces is without equal. Every act of His Holiness is directed towards benefitting beings, not himself. To heap slander upon him is the worst kind of offense.
I would encourage anyone who reads this to spread the word about this travesty so that it comes to an immediate halt.
Love to all,
Palzang
In accordance with Jetsunma's wishes I am presenting the following, written by Jetsunma herself:
Anyone who turns the mind of a sentient being away from the profound blessings of a living Buddha, like His Holiness Penor Rinpoche is either insane, stupendously ignorant or demonic.
This has gone too far. The sangha should pick up pen and paper and write about His Holiness. His Holiness is peerless; nobody has done what he has done. The extent of his Dharma activity is unmatched anywhere in the world; the loving care which he has provided for his students is unmatched, and the sublime purity with which he has kept his three levels of vows: outer, inner and secret, cannot be denied.
Christianity says, and I would like to borrow the phrase, “…by their fruits you will know them.”
Those who would put him down are dealers of hate. They speak hate, they breathe hate, and the vile pus of their hatred is their nectar.
At the time of their death they will see what they have done.
--Jetsunma Ahkon Lhamo
I would just like to add that His Holiness is the lama who ordained me as a gelong (fully ordained) monk, and that he is the lama who bravely recognized my teacher as a tulku (reincarnate lama) when it was very controversial to do so. He is the source of all the blessings I have received in my pitiful life, and to see him treated in this horrendous way by one who does not have the merit to kiss his feet makes me sick.
He came out of Tibet with many other Tibetan lamas, monks and ordinary citizens after the Chinese had brutally put down the uprising by the Tibetan people against their illegal occupation of their country. Coming to India with only a few monks and no money, he received a small parcel of land in Southern India, a few thousand rupees, and an elephant. Almost single-handedly His Holiness built a large monastery to house all those who would come after him. Today that monastery is the largest Tibetan Buddhist monastery anywhere, including Tibet. Its shedra (monastic university) is the largest as well, and the quality of the khenpos it produces is without equal. Every act of His Holiness is directed towards benefitting beings, not himself. To heap slander upon him is the worst kind of offense.
I would encourage anyone who reads this to spread the word about this travesty so that it comes to an immediate halt.
Love to all,
Palzang
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Comments
It's best to leave trolls alone. Nobody cares what they're saying until you give it credence by making it a point to try and counter it all.
People understand that there is always a naysayer, and that there are a lot of idiots in the world. I look at the people who slander my Kung Fu teacher online and laugh at their incompetence. I can't think of anything they could say that would cause me to engage them.
It's very disturbing the first time it happens; I understand. As someone who's dealt with more than their fair share of trolls though, trust me. It isn't worth your time and energy, and will likely cause you more grief.
http://xkcd.com/386/
My heart goes out to you and your brothers and sisters in the community.My thoughts and prayers are with you at this difficult time
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What I write now may press heavily on our e-friendship and I trust that you will understand that it arises from past experience, current reflection and deepest respect for you and, through you, for your teachers.
My first reaction on reading your post was a familiar one: scandalised anger and a movement towards retaliation. It's always so with me when friends are attacked. Because it was familiar, I caught it in the net of my practice and realised that it was unprofitable.
Returning to your post and reading it all through, I became troubled that your community appears to be responding to these attacks by losing equanimity and benevolence. May this not be precisely the opportunity that the community needs? A chance to demonstrate the strength of Dharma training?
Neither the Dharma nor your venerable teachers can be damaged in any real way by slanders. In both physical and psychological therapy, we know that the point of resistance is precisely where we must bring our efforts to bear. In teaching "a new thing" and in showing people a way out of suffering which challenges people to change their lives, we must meet opposition and that opposition can be both vitriolic and violent.
Following Jetsunma's example, may I borrow from the Christ texts?
"Blessed are you when people abuse you and persecute you and speak all kinds of calumny against you.... Rejoice and be glad."
The other thing is that whenever you get dog sh*t on your shoes, it is better to wipe it off and leave it behind than to carry it on your sole into the house.
Palzang
I shall continue to offer such benefit as accrues from my practice for your well-being.
We cannot police another's karma.
I am always reminded of Tilopa's words: Namaste
Kris
Palzang
I'm sorry, Palzang, but it's not the same thing. Not even close. There is no comparison between someone threatening to shoot a child and someone talking smack on the internet. Someone talking smack about Penor Rinpoche, your teacher and others in your sangha is just that, talk. I mean, if there's no truth to what they're saying, then what's there to worry about? I mean no disrespect, but what really needs protecting here, the Dharma or your reputations?
Once again Simon jumps in a steals all of the words from my mouth but then, somehow, is much more eloquent in iterating them than I would be.
All joking aside, Palzang, my friend, I understand how the defacement of your teachers would be disturbing for you and all of your brothers and sisters and my heart goes out to you. I`m breathing with you.
For me, abuse is like a gift - you have to unwrap it before it really comes to life. To refuse the gift is simply the easiest thing to do.
Hi Palzang,
The Dharma is understood by sincere students and requires no protection. This bloke sounds like he's getting a buzz out of slandering your teacher and you have taken the bait. Your reaction is feeding him - fueling his ego and no doubt helping him to justify any future attacks.
"He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me,'' in those who harbour such thoughts hatred is not appeased".
Namaste
Kris
Please understand that I think we should be reflecting most seriously on these events. They are not some sort of exercise: this is action under genuine fire. This is where our practice is tested.
Not one of us can have escaped the anger impulse, even apparently justified anger, righteous anger on another's behalf. Here we have venerable and respected teachers being traduced - it's unpleasant at the very least. And can we genuinely judge or criticise those who react when we have been there ourselves? The point is: how do I react? Do I allow this scratch to fester and let poison into my calm mind?
My thoughts and prayers remain with all those now in conflict that they may find calm abiding again very soon.
I'm not particularly worried about the Dharma. It, as you say, doesn't need protection. However, I would remind you that there was no Dharma in this world until Lord Buddha taught it. Before that there was only misery, suffering and hopelessness with the prospect of staying stuck on the wheel of death and rebirth for eternity. The Buddha also predicted that the Dharma would again disappear during these very dark times in which we are currently living. But only if we let it happen. It is just these purveyors of hatred and perverted views - and our tolerance of same - that will kill the Dharma off. That is why we need to protect it. It is all nice and so superior to stay above the fray and philosophize as to why this demon should be ignored, but that's only true if the Dharma is of no value to you. Just as you would do anything to protect your child, we must also do the same for the Dharma if we value it at all.
Palzang
Well said, Kris.
I see, it's a nasty festering kind of affair, with damage done on both sides.
A bit of perspective needed here Pally.
It is precisely because I value it so much, that I take the view that we must question our own motives. It's not "being superior" or "staying above the fray" to tackle anger which arises like a poison in our minds. This is the real demon, as Buddha explained.
Namaste
Kris
Pally is asking for our help.
There is nothing incorrect in what anything anyone is saying, but Palzang is an ordained monk, and even though he is subject to the same effects that the influence of emotions and feelings awaken in all of us, we should perhaps consider our intentions carefully when we suggest to him the course of action we feel he should be taking.
In many ways, his life is simpler than ours: He has his time outlined and pre-determined so that he has time during the day to meditate and to study.
'Luxuries' we have to incorporate into our busy lay-schedules, making periods of votive devotion difficult to pre-determine and predict.
However, he also faces more difficulties than we do, precisely because of his status: he is expected to behave, think and speak in a particuar way at all times, and is subject to criticism should he fail.
Whatever our opinions of his perception, opinions or request, we should first and foremost consider that he is our brother.
And as such, because he has requested our support, our first consideration should be how to best comply with his request.
He rarely asks for help.
That doesn't mean we should rarely give it.
And I think that is precisely what we are doing, Fede, even if it might not seem that way. Sometimes we must say things that we believe to be true and beneficial even though they may be difficult to hear (MN 58).
In matters of Dharma and Buddhist practice, I am but the greenest of novices compared to Palzang. In matters of dealing with Internet slander and conflict though, I like to think I have some experience to impart.
For my part, I honestly consider my previous post to be the best help I could give in this situation.
I don't think it would do to only consider what you and I might think when we look at this situation; if someone didn't know much of anything about the Buddha Dharma but came accross content advising that one should avoid a certain Teacher and were given however many reasons not to, how would they know it was bullshit? If they didn't really check it out but decided to just avoid the whole thing, that slander would have been effective, and where there was perhaps a small amount of karma enabling a student to reconnect with, HH for instance, then it could well be that the karma would ripen in such a way that in this life that student was able to hear of HH but, because of the effort of this individual, and the lack of experience/understanding of the perspective student who had to revolve in Samsara for 426,573,234,682 lifetimes just to see/hear HH's name, that opportunity was missed, and that student may have just missed the boat which was waiting for him to sail across the ocean of suffering, and due to that student's karma a boat of such caliber might not appear again to that student for many many lifetimes.
This, I believe, is why an effort like that cannot go unchallenged; if there is little or no opposition to the slander, how would one readily learn of its untruthful nature. A Dharma practitioner knows that our opinions are subject to faults, but it is not opinion that purposefully misinforming prospective students about the qualities of a Lama is non-virtuous, that's slandering a being whose only goal is to be of benefit to all others. While this person is deserving of great compassion, what they are doing is not ok and should not be ignored, just as a serial killer should not be allowed to roam the streets just because he too is deserving of great compassion. Being compassionate doesn't mean you have to be a pushover (that's a general statement and not one aimed at those with opposing views) or let people get away with murder, and do not be fooled, "killing" someone’s chance of making great strides towards their ultimate liberation through the blessings and guidance of a pure Lama is worse than murder, it does not only affect that student but also every single sentient being that student could have helped.
Indeed we must question our own motives; but it would seem Palzang's motive here is to carry out his/our Lama's instructions, in Vajrayana Buddhism this is done at all cost, least of witch might be criticism. Tulku Jetsunma Ahkon Norbu Lhamo has been recognized by many well known and highly accomplished masters, and by their own accounts she too is a very highly accomplished master, punctuated by the fact that she was the first Western woman to be recognized as a Tulku the Tibetan Buddhist Tradition and she was Enthroned as a Lineage Holder of the very pure Palyul Lineage.
I hope none take offense in what I say/write, but if you do, I hope you don’t let that feeling go so far that you can’t see it’s a reaction to what you’ve read. The facts are that this person is slandering a truly pure monk and great Bodhisattva, a being whose only purpose is to end suffering. Soft or strong, words are words, please do not let them get you rattled into a defensive posture where your heart and mind are closed to the truth of things; slandering a pure and authentic Lama = bad, contradicting untruthful statements that could deny one truly awesome blessings on their path to liberation = good.
Be well.
Om Ah Hung Benzar Guru Pedma Siddhi Hung
About three years ago, when I was more heavily involved in online discussion forums, there was a fair amount of criticism being directed at Thanissaro Bhikkhu, and I took it upon myself to defend him in these discussions. After one particular incident, I wrote a very long and detailed analysis/defense of The Not-self Strategy. Later on, I wrote a letter to Thanissaro Bhikkhu describing the situation, and asking whether the things I wrote faithfully represented his position.
Not long after, I received a reply. In it, he mentioned that the words were fine, but he expressed concern that the experience of having to defend him against critics had left me full of doubt. He said this showed that something behind the words was wrong.
He said that part of the issue may simply be the problem of discussing the Dhamma on the web—that you do not know who is prowling out there, with what intentions or what level of attainment. He even advised me that it might be better to stay away from discussion groups because they do not seem all that helpful in settling questions of Dhamma. He even said, with some humour I imagine, that, "No one has ever been enlightened while engaging in a chat group."
He went on the say that finding the truth of the Dhamma can come only with practice, and that, fortunately, the Buddha laid out some very clear guidelines on how to test his teachings. He advised me to build on what I know is true, and not on the words and opinions of others. He closed the letter by saying: "As Ajaan Fuang once said in a Dhamma talk (see Timeless & True), you learn the truth by being true."
I think that there is a lot of wisdom in those words, and they closely mirror what Matt and Kris have already said. They also remind me of the Buddha's teachings regarding the eight worldly winds, particularly praise and blame, especially the beginning of DN 1:
'That would not be so, Sir.'
'But when outsiders speak in dispraise of me, or of the Doctrine, or of the Order, you should unravel what is false and point it out as wrong, saying: "For this or that reason this is not the fact, that is not so, such a thing is not found among us, is not in us."'
'But also, brethren, if outsiders should speak in praise of me, in praise of the Doctrine, in praise of the Order, you should not, on that account, be filled with pleasure or gladness, or be lifted up in heart. Were you to be so that also would stand in the way of your self-conquest. When outsiders speak in praise of me, or of the Doctrine, or of the Order, you should acknowledge what is right to be the fact, saying: "For this or that reason this is the fact, that is so, such a thing is found among us, is in us."'
First, I would like to welcome you to the forum.
That said, I agree with you to an extent, but what concerns me is how this is being done. My first response, while admittedly cheeky and probably not the most helpful, was trying to point out how angry and militant the OP sounded.
If there have been false accusations levelled at Penor Rinpoche, Palzang's teacher and others in his sangha, then those can be dealt with accordingly; however, saying that such a person is either "insane, stupendously ignorant or demonic" and rallying others to "rise to the defense of His Holiness and defend him against such filth" seems rather counterproductive to me.
Perhaps I am being overly judgmental in my assessment, or simply ignorant as to how Vajrayana works, but I seriously do not think that bashing an anonymous blogger who been saying some negative things on the internet will solve the problem.
Best wishes,
Jason
It seems like you're saying "some people are too uneducated to differentiate slander from truth on the Internet, so we have to engage to make sure they know."
I submit that if someone is so easily swayed by a random person's words on the Internet, than you have little hope of offering them guidance. If they are truly so inept as to take everyone's words at face value, how will you convince them your own are "better"?
It seems to me that your teachings, traditions, and reputations are easily distinguishable from that of a charlatan and could easily weather his flames without fanning them.
Anyone that would be reading such a blog in the first place my friend, would have already heard of the dharma. And the truth if it will always out-shine the negative effects this individual may be placing on it. While I cannot know the situation in full it seems more like a personal attack towards a single individual and not the dharma, perhaps perspective should be used here?
From many of your post I gather the assumption of you being a wonderful being and one would beg to believe that it is beneath you to begin labeling such an individual with harmful names and gossiping about said individuals past. We all make mistakes my friend but, our past does not define us and the past is exactly that, the past nothing could be changed of it even if this person wished they could. We are what we are, so it is unfair of us to hold such actions of his past against him today. It also might help remembering that to enforce your view of this person onto others (idle chatter) will also create negative karma. I find when I begin to find myself falling into a pit much like this that it is best to reevaluate my own faults to find the delusions that allow me to progress so far down the wrong path. I wish you the best of luck.
“In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.”
“Blaming has no positive effect at all, nor does trying to persuade using reason and argument. That is my experience. No blame, no reasoning, no argument, just understanding. If you understand, and you show that you understand, you can love, and the situation will change.”
Just a suggestion.
Palzang
Hi Palzang,
Thanks for replying. Well at least you have tried to reason with him but it seems to have failed which is a pity. By all means warn people but bear in mind that the only time a demon can draw anyone away from the dharma is when the demons of desire and anger draw us away from our equanimity. The dharma begins and ends within our minds and even this person is a mother sentient being who will need to be helped.
If there is anger, there is no dharma IMHO.
Hang in there mate.
Namaste
Kris
Well, it wouldn't suit us effeminate Europeans but I see there's a more down to earth way of settling differences in parts of the USA.
It may be a good way for Pally to deal with the issue:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090320/twl-teachers-forced-pupils-into-cage-fig-3fd0ae9.html
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You're right, the only way a demon can get in is if you open the door, i.e. if you do not maintain vigilance against the "demons of desire". But I would remind you that compassion does not always involve being "nice". That's called idiot compassion. So you always have to try to determine what is appropriate, not just for one person, but for the benefit of all sentient beings.
Palzang
Oh, yeah, perfect solution. BTW, did I mention this clown claims to have been a CIA operative (read: assassin) in Vietnam and has written books on how to kill someone with just your bare hands or a knife?
Palzang
Hi Palzang,
I'll have to defer to your knowledge in the area of "compassion". After years of studying the Mahayana, I'm no nearer to understanding what it is and I doubt I ever will be.
On the one hand I was told that a Boddhisattva, upon seeing a starving being, could transform into a meal for them. On the other hand I saw "wrathful compassion" in action, which was used to hammer free-thinking people into line in order to defend the doctrine - sometimes with nasty consequences.
Nowadays I keep away from such considerations and just watch where my minds at. It's not very exciting or ambitious but I can at least understand it.
Namaste
Can we effectively say "May only some sentient beings have happiness and the causes of happiness" when we contemplate the Four Immeasurables? I don't think so.
There are many kinds of beings in this world - a beautiful object of inspiration and nourishment to one might be a boring potato to another. It's all relative.
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Palzang
I would personally find it difficult to preserve my bodhisattva vow not to exclude others from my loving concern while calling someone a creep and a moron. I understand why you are upset at someone insulting His Holiness but we really must not respond with anger and self-righteousness, no matter how good that makes us feel. It is a very easy justification for us to say that we are practicing compassion for an evildoer by our great wrath, but is your heart of hearts truly breaking for this poor sentient being as if he was your only son about to fall off a high cliff? If not, please reconsider your words.
Such harsh speech does not reflect well on our community and only serves to call attention to this poor unfortunate person's critique. We really do have higher and more effective skillful means to deal with such adversity than by initiating flame wars on message boards.
Again, I completely understand your outrage. I took refuge with HH Penor Rinpoche in 1988 and have received many precious teachings from him. I am deeply saddened that anyone could say anything critical of His Holiness whose every moment is consumed in benefit of others. Certainly let us tell of Rinpoche's boundless merits, but please let us leave off the ad hominem attacks on his detractors.
It truly is best not to feed the trolls.
With love and best wishes.
Namgyal
Regardless of what you may think, I hold no rancor for this confused being. Quite the contrary. I understand the horrible suffering he is creating for himself and can only feel compassion for him and his minions.
However, the Dharma must be protected. Now, I have people tell me that the Dharma doesn't need protection. I agree. The Dharma is stainless and beyond anything that samsaric beings can do to it. What really needs to be protected is our access to the Dharma. That is something that can be lost. The Dharma has been under attack ever since the Buddha's first teaching. First there were the tirthikas, the heretics who attacked the validity of the Dharma. The Buddha defeated the tirthikas. But the attacks continue. There is nowhere on earth where it is completely safe. Remember what happened to the Dharma in India, the place of its birth? Remember what happened to Tibet? Any time you have something as pure and perfect as the Dharma in the world you will have a counter force attacking it. That's just the way it is. So we must always be vigilant and agressive in protecting it. I know that's not a particular popular view, but in fact it is the truth.
The monastic community are the ones who have always done this. In fact, we would have no Dharma at all to practice were it not for the heroic efforts of the early monks who preserved the teachings and passed them on orally for centuries in a pure and perfect form until they were finally written down. Nothing has changed. The buck still stops here. Whenever and wherever an attack comes, it is mainly up to the monastic community to act to preserve the Dharma, to protect the teachers, to protect the purity of the teachings. This is especially true of Vajrayana which is particularly vulnerable because it depends completely on the teacher-student relationship.
I wish we could all just sit on our cushions blissed out in perfect samadhi, but unfortunately that doesn't come without a price. You can't just think good thoughts and hope it'll all go away because if you do that, you will find that very soon the Dharma will go away instead. Remember that for millions of aeons before the appearance of the Buddha there was no Dharma here on this insignificant little planet. It can be like that again if we allow it.
Palzang
" Don't speak harshly to anyone;
What you say will be said back to you.
Hostile speech is painful,
And you will meet with retaliation.
If like a broken bell,
You do not reverberate,
Then you have attained Nirvana
And no hostilty is found in you."
(Dhammapada 10 v133 & 134)
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I think that there are some important larger lessons in this thread beyond the immediate circumstance so please forgive that I am so emphatic in my argument, though a newcomer to this board.
One can point to Tibetan history to countless examples of conflict-- even armed conflict, between the various schools of Tibetan Buddhism. Often, as with the closing of the Jonangpa monasteries and burning of their texts, the protagonists couched their language in just these terms of protecting the Dharma from "decay".
I feel strongly that we should leave these conflicts in their country of origin. It is very easy to respond with anger to what one sees as an attack on what one holds dear and it can feel very satisfying and empowering to feel righteousness. There is nothing particularly Buddhist about this sort of "passionate intensity". In fact, it smacks of the same emotion as the cries of jihad by Islamic fundamentalists and the issuing of death threats by their leaders when a Danish paper published a caricature of Mohammed or Salman Rushdie published The Satanic Verses.
Palzang, people do not have "minions". They have friends, colleagues or allies. When all of your language is so condescending towards this person I find it very hard to believe your protestations of compassion. Please reflect on the fate of this person. It should break your heart, not boil your blood.
Our access to the teachings is lost by not keeping the three trainings pure, for instance by excluding objects of compassion, or using harsh speech towards the wish-fulfilling jewel, our mother sentient beings.
The so-called tirthikas were not heretics. They were the practitioners of sanatanadharma (that which was later misnamed "Hinduism" by the British colonialists) and hence orthodox. They did not physically attack or accost the Buddha, nor did he respond by mocking them. He defeated them in debate. Those pandits that were defeated by him took refuge in him and became his disciples. This is the only way to profitably defeat, by mutual respect and engagement.
The Dharma in India was destroyed by the zealous bloodthirst of the invading Muslim armies. Nalanda's libraries and buildings burned, its monks were slaughtered. Are you suggesting that the proper response for a monk would have been then to take up arms? If the mahapandits of Nalanda did not see armed defence as having dharmic sanction, why do you think that a verbal attack by a charlatan is of the same order?
Have you studied Tibetan history? It is characterized by constant internecine strife alongside the soaring heights of its scholarly and meditative accomplishments. The seeds of the Chinese invasion were sown by the actions of the Tibetan people themselves. Such is karma. This does not make it any less of a tragedy, nor does it absolve the Chinese of responsibility for the heinous crimes they have committed. But let's not make Tibet into Camelot.
Do you really mean this? Do you really subscribe to the view that the skillful means of vajrayana are just "thinking good thoughts"? Are meditative practices of only psychological significance?
If we engage in harsh words, if we attack in a like manner when we are verbally attacked, we have already lost the Dharma. The true warrior repays anger with kindness and this is the only way to win any battle we face. Look to the current example of HH Dalai Lama who has consistently met the aggression of the Chinese government with compassion and kind words. I have not been able to find a single scriptural source in support of the viewpoint that you are espousing. On the contrary, time and again I find the same sentiment:
"When seeing a being who is compelled to act in violent ways, causing wrongs and suffering, I shall hold dear this one so hard to find as though discovering a precious treasure." - Langri Tangpa
Please accept these comments in a spirit of kindly concern.
Your dharma brother,
Namgyal
Palzang
Hi Thubten Namgyal,
This is a very profound point.
Namaste