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dream yoga question #2
yuriythebest
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right, this is probably random/samsaric but I'll ask anyway just to be sure. I was in a lucid dream and saw a dream character/person, I asked him calmly "you are part of my subconsciousness, tell me about enlightenment", to which he responded "BOOM... boom! boom! boom!", I asked him again and he repeated himself- I saw someone else and asked him but the dream faded before I got a reply. I know 98% it was just a random reply, yet I also remember some zen coans that sound just as weird so wanted to make sure.
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Years ago there used to be a fox puppet called Basil Brush on TV here in the UK
......was one of the favorite expressions he used after he'd said something amusing.
Perhaps the dream character was simply a manifestation of yourself as well as the answer to the question ?
Kind wishes,
Dazzle
Hi Dazzle,
Thanks for reminding me of that. What a thought - Buddha Basil, Boom Boom.
Yuri, I personally love lucid dreams, I've had quite a few but not as many as your almost Matrix-style output. Just watch out for multiple Agent Smiths chasing you around the place.
One thing is sure with all dreams, is that they clearly demonstrate how our consciousness builds a complete samsaric arena for itself. In a dream, your mind has shattered into a dazzling kaleidoscope of landscape, objects, people and yourself (of course). Your mind both creates and sustains all of these things, which is pretty awesome to consider.
Even the recognition, that we are experiencing a dream does not transcend duality, it's just that you don't "buy" it any more. I find that at this point the dream begins to break apart. I once had an out of the body experience when practicing Casteneda's advice on finding my hands (years back), so I figure that is the next stage in the process.
Tantrics use this 'creative' process to build their mandala and maintain awareness during the process of death and the Bardo.
Namaste
srivijaya- I've only started lucid dreaming like 4-5 months ago so hopefully that count will grow! yeah- any place I can learn to build them mandalas in dreams?
BTW to get lucid I generally use the MILD technique
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=65458
Palzang
I should clarify- I don't think I practice true dream yoga per say, i.e. chakras and all, I just practice lucid dreaming. That is I gain awareness in a dream and do cool stuff like flying- as you can see from a link to the above forum there are thousands upon thousands of ppl doing the same thing.
I'd very much like to converse with a qualified lama on this- however I doubt there are any in ukraine. If by some amazing luck you have the AIM/ICQ/MSN/YIM/SKYPE of a dream yoga master I'd, and many other ppl I know of, sure would want the privilege of talking to one
Palzang
I used to have lucid dreams. They came on spontaneously and were really clear for a while. I remember one in which I was walking down the stairs in my house and I knew I would be turning a corner when I got to the bottom of the stairs and walked into the living room so before I turned the corner I tried with all my might to conjure up The Rolling Stones, just sitting around in my living room talking and stuff. But I concentrated too hard and just as I was turning the corner there were some see-through members of the band standing around but they quickly disappeared entirely and I woke up kind of irritated. I wanted to play Keith's Telecaster so I could brag to my boyfriend. Didn't even see the Telecaster in the dream. *sigh*
I never really thought much about lucid dreaming except for its entertainment value. But then again, I'm no pro. I couldn't use it to work through complicated emotional issues or anything. I couldn't even materialize The Stones.
I'd never, ever use them for anything spiritual, even if I could. That's definitely a territory in which one would need a teacher, as Palzang says. Playing with fire is not my thing.
I love the flying ones, though. They rock, don't they?
I think one of the first lucid dreams I had was a really good one, one in which I had a large amount of control, but unfortunately I don't remember it. I wonder if just thinking and talking about it now might be enough to induce a lucid dream tonight. I'll let you know!
Palzang
I hardly ever remember my dreams, let lone lucidly....!
....is it important....?
I think that remembering what goes on when we seem to be awake may be more important.
federica- yeah remembering dreams is an artform. General practice includes keeping a dream journal, and also lying still once you wake up just remembering dreams- cause when you move your brain tends to earase em somehow.
I don't want to work that hard.
Sleep for me is a time of recuperation and rest. I can't be asked to start keeping a journal... And trust me, all it would say, day after day is....
"Nope....nuthin'.....!"
"Nope....nuthin'.....!"
"Nope....nuthin'.....!"
"Nope....nuthin'.....!"
"Nope.... STILL nuthin'.....!"
'Sides, as SithePi says, I have enough to occupy me in being mindful, during my waking hours!
Ditto brother!:)