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theory of fear+anger
anger is fear.
fear is anger.:eek::eek::eek::eek:
fear is anger.:eek::eek::eek::eek:
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Fear is unfounded.
The basis of Fear is Loss of Control.
But we never lose it.
Understand that you are always in Control, and you'll never be angry.
Simple.
When people become gravely ill, their bodies start to do things that they have no control over. Loss of bodily functions and pain, things that we successfully manage in our prime living. The body is in control, and it usually has the last word- ask anyone that's been through it.
I don't yet realize the power and potential of my own being. It's not a me, it's a ego; a squeaky voice of consciousness that is a by-product of being alive.
Anger is a front for fear; it shows that we are threatened and under stress. Often it is the ego that is most under threat. I've had my own very best friends turn on me rotten when I unwittingly pushed their buttons.
Men are conditioned so that it is socially unacceptable to express fear and sadness. This has proved very handy in wartime, as the root emotions are expressed as anger. I'm not certain if this is universal, and it's probably beyond me, to understand the true complexity of emotion that goes on in a charged situation, although I feel it it perhaps noteworthy in my humble opinion.
Im in pain everyday (no, you don't ever 'get used to it') and i often 'snap' and shout in anger. Ive always thought it was agitation because of the pain making me edgy and frustrated.
So is anger always fear? :eek:
This implies (to me) that there is something far more complicated going on at a mental level. In fact emotions are actually so complicated that we're inspired to write whole books, or in the case of forums, thousands of posts.
Pain, on the other hand, is a little separate. Physical pain and mental pain can be distinguished for the purpose of this discussion. A good friend of mine once kneed me in the nuts when we were at high school. All I recall was waking up in a pool of dribble as others stood by apparently entertained. I didn't feel anything in this instance. I picked myself back up and carried on.
Physical pain can be exhausting, and, as Rose mentioned can lead to frustration and anger. Physical pain can certainly make one feel 'angry', 'sad', 'depressed' and also 'afraid'. To conflate emotions in a very short statement misses the mark as they are and are not the same thing, depending on interpretation and awareness.
I went through a long period of pain and debilitation (some years). How well I learned, first hand, the veracity of the First Noble Truth. Buddha told us that life has pain in it ... maybe not always, but certainly at times. And I should somehow think I'm exempt from that truth?
Acceptance in the moment is the first key to working with pain ... rather than trying to fight it. Because the more we fight it the more it hurts. The more we let it be, the less it hurts. This works for natural childbirth techniques (which I used to teach, which I used myself), as well for long-term nerve pain (which I have experienced). I'm not saying you ever get to LIKE it. But it is what it is ...nothing more, nothing less.
It all starts with the First Noble Truth.
Acceptance with pain is very effective. Emotional pain as well as physical pain too.
I also agree with the concept of not being in control.
lol what? control is an illusion, we're never in control of any situation. Fear happens when you think you're in control, and then something threatens that delusion.
I think what Federica meant is that we are in control of what we do with our experiences and what we make out of our experiences, not so much that we control the experiences themselves.
To understand anger, look at the "benefit". Anger makes us feel powerful. So any condition that makes us feel powerless has the potential to make us feel anger ... fear, helplessness (particularly a feeling of vulnerability to one's own pain). It is easy to learn the habit of avoiding our feelings by jumping on the train to anger.
Then there's Buddhism, which neatly derails this track.
So?
I'm not even sure I agree. It sounds cutesy, but does it stand the test of reason?
If I hear a strange sound at night that wakes me up, I will most likely feel some fear. I'd say this is a good thing because I'll want to investigate and find out whether or not my fear is legitimate or not. I'm not necessarily angry. However, if I discover that a thief is stealing my furniture, then I may rightfully feel some anger.
Another example: If my tire blows out on the way to work and I am late, and the boss yells at me, I will most likely be very angry. But if my job is not in jeopardy, where is the fear?
I don't think that human emotions like fear, anger, or even hatred are illegitimate. They are perfectly human. They should be tempered and concealed as necessary, but I don't see the big hang up on them.
If go camping and a wild animal attacks you, you will probably feel fear but not anger towards the animal.
In case of anger, if someone treats you in a cold and dismissive way you might feel angry, but not really fearful.
In case of bullying the constant fear of being bullied might make you sad or depressed, so would you say sadness and fear are the same?
When you get married you might feel a bit of fear at the day, but that doesn't mean you are angry at anyone.
When you get snapped at by a dog you can certainly feel both fear and then anger at the dog. One comes quickly on the heels of the other.
I've had 'fear rage' many times.
When I'm treated this way my anger is also an expression of the fear I feel that the person is right that I deserve to be treated badly.
Why would one have to say sadness and fear are the same? Why wouldn't they just be viewed as what they are; sadness and fear?
I think what TheFound was trying to say, if I may be so bold, is that he was realizing the connection that exists between anger and fear and that's a good thing because when we're confronted by someone else's anger it can be difficult for us not to react to it in a negative way. But if we understand the relationship between fear and anger we may react more compassionately if we can see that the angry person is not just angry but frightened too.
When it comes to emotions there are no black or white answers to anything. Just shades of gray, like everything else.
Or I could be reading stuff into it that doesn't exist. I don't know. Just some of my thoughts.
I think maybe positive emotions are on the wheel too.
i'm like...trying to find the unifying theory or the elementary particles that make up this wheel..
fear is anger , anger is fear its true just different gradients like on a color wheel..um something like that
"Anger and aversion express themselves in acts of hostility and persecution. The mind becomes very narrow. It isolates someone or something, fixates on it, develops tunnel vision, sees no way out, fixes that experience, that person, or that object as being forever unchangeable." "Anger can bind people as strongly as desire, so that they drag each other along connected through various kinds of revenge and counter-revenge, never being able to let go, never able to be still."
I compare this with fear where people are often frozen. They may feel fixated on the fear, but the effect seems to me to be quite different.