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If the Dalai Lama is the 14th reincarnation of Avalokitsvara; that's doesn't take him back to the time of the Buddha. Didn't Avalokistvara live in Buddha Shakyamuni's time?
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HH Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, is the 14th reincarnation of the first Dalai Lama, Gedun Drupa. here's a link...
http://www.dalailama.com/page.51.htm
I think they are considered "emanations" of Avalokiteshvara.
Dalai Lamas are glorified Tulkus, emanations from masters of the past. Quite frankly, after Steven Segal became one, I lost my faith in the concept.
One thing I find admirable about him, is that he never compromises his Buddhist practice by acting the 'baddie' role.
Unlike Richard Gere.....
Anderson Cooper was on a talk show (I don't know which one) and told a story about Segal that made him sound like a total douche bag. After seeing a couple clips of his new reality show, I can believe it. I agree with NamelessRiver: if Steven Segal holds the title, it's worthless.
From: http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
they are born with advantages, much like tulkus.
One of the most approachable books is Glenn H. Mullin's The Fourteen Dalai Lamas - A Sacred Legacy of Reincarnation (Clear Light Publishers. 2001)
The present Dalai Lama has become very aware of the 'feudal' nature of the old system and has, in as many ways as he can, reformed it. It is, perhaps, one of the benefits that has srisen from the overarching horror of the Chinese aggression. In a single man's life, we have witnessed a move from autocratic theocracy to democracy without losing the spiritual treasure of the bodhisatva ideal.
Every source I have seen so far that points out how Tibet was before Chinese invasion goes on about Theocracy, clashes between lineages and serfs. Point me to one that doesn't please.
In my opinion, if Tibet was not invaded (which was a truly sad thing) we would be going on and on about the lack of human rights in there these days. It's very easy for the Dalai Lama go out and say everything mainstream, and for the monks, who where the ruling class, to say that everything was peachy, but even now he suppresses other people's beliefs - which is, by the way, a violation of human rights.
Ah! Is your objection political? If so, HHDL is working hard to reform the Tibetan Government-in-exile. Or is it doctrinaire? In that case, perhaps you could declare your interest.
As far as politics go, he is not just trying to reform the government as much as he has to, due to the radical change of scenario. And yes I was talking about the whole Dorje Shugden deal (which I don't believe in either).
As far as I know he is not in Tibet anymore, he is in India, and Indian Constitution forbids that kind of practice, too bad for him. So you can add my objection is legal, not political or doctrinary.
the practiced he banned is VIOLENT! you should do some research on this before you speak on it.
HHDL is 100% right on this issue and there is no debating the issue.
if you knew what this practice was you would agree.
If you're going to say anything convincing, why say anything at all? Does it feel good?
The post I was responding to was a series of assertions founded on an acceptance of Tibetan authority. There was no support for what it claimed beyond "the Dalai Lama said so." The only people that's going to reach is people who already agree with you. It's called "preaching to the choir."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/7421888.stm
Well the Buddha lived about 2500 years ago - add 100 years for each of the 14 dalai lamas = 1400. There's a gap of 1000 years. I wonder if this is what shanyin was getting at? Or am I totally off the track? :eek:
As for the present Dalai Lama, I think he is a wonderful person. This is what he says about the attainment of Nirvana:
"I myself feel, and also tell other Buddhists, that the question of Nirvana will come later. There is not much hurry. If in day-to-day life you lead a good life, honestly, with love, with compassion, with less selfishness, then automatically it will lead to Nirvana." The Dalai Lama
if people want to know about this practice and why there is a controversy and or a so called ban they should look into the Tibetan histories and go talk to some lama's about what it is.
They will get a clear idea of what the practice in question represents and what it has been used for.
Its not a question of just agreeing with what HHDL says, its about actually looking into the situation and coming to an informed conclusion.
correct
You should also do some research before you make such uneducated pontifications aswell. :rolleyes:
Nope. It began just after the foundation of the gelugpa tradition.
And no he's not a reincarnation of avalokitishvara, he's reputed to be an emination although you will find some people who disagree with this as well seeing as the DL has not claimed anything of the sort.
You never know DD
Don't believe anything you have not directly experienced for yourself.
Being an unenlightened, samsaric being, I am fully aware of how alluring it is to believe, or to take someone's word on something ...
but the Buddha challenged us to find out for ourselves.